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Date:      Thu, 24 May 2001 14:14:33 -0400
From:      Shannon Hendrix <shannon@widomaker.com>
To:        Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc:        "Andresen,Jason R." <jandrese@mitre.org>, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, Nadav Eiron <nadav@cs.Technion.AC.IL>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: technical comparison
Message-ID:  <20010524141431.A8556@widomaker.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0105241224331.10469-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>; from riel@conectiva.com.br on Thu, May 24, 2001 at 12:25:59PM -0300
References:  <20010523234910.B19185@widomaker.com> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0105241224331.10469-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>

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On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 12:25:59PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2001, Shannon wrote:
> > On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 10:54:40PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote:
> >
> > > 1. I don't think I've ever seen a Linux distro which has write
> > >    caching enabled by default. Hell, DMA33 isn't even enabled
> > >    by default ;)
> >
> > You are talking about controlling the IDE drive cache.
> >
> > The issue here is write cache in the filesystem code.
> 
> 1) IIRC they were talking about hw.ata.wc

In a subthread, yeah. I think though, the overall issue is the caching
ext2 does that ufs does not. I'm not even sure that soft updates is
quite the same thing. I think the soft-updates paper mentions that it
shouldn't increase risk, while a lot of people feel like ext2 is very
risky.

I never really notice a big difference when I turn on write caching
with my system (on the hard drive). It's been awhile since I did any
benchmarks though, since I no longer run IDE drives on most systems. You
can control the cache on them too with the right scsi tools, but I've
not really messed with it.





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