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Date:      Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:04:43 -0400
From:      Pete Fritchman <petef@databits.net>
To:        Juha Saarinen <juha@saarinen.org>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re:  Why is the STABLE branch not so stable anymore?
Message-ID:  <20010611190443.B70538@databits.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0106121049560.5609-100000@vimfuego.saarinen.org>; from juha@saarinen.org on Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 10:51:31AM %2B1200
References:  <20010611153217J.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0106121049560.5609-100000@vimfuego.saarinen.org>

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++ 12/06/01 10:51 +1200 - Juha Saarinen:
| I'm confused about this. The Handbook says to track -STABLE, if errr...
| you want stability. Are you saying that in order to have a stable system,
| we should stick with -RELEASE?
| 

Perhaps the handbook should be updated then.  If you want maximum
"stability", you should track -STABLE.  But not blindly.. don't cvsup to
the latest code and {build,install}world on all your production machines
without catching up on the mailing list.  If you find a problem, report
it for the benefit of others so they won't run into the same problem
(because they should be tracking the mailing list).  When you report a
problem, remember this isn't a commercial entity, but a volunteer
project and that a 6-hour turnaround time is pretty decent.  It's not a
life-or-death issue.. it's not like -stable was broken and nobody knew
about it (I mean, when it broke, nobody knew about it.. but someone
found it and reported it to stable@).

On my production systems, I'll cvsup src/, and then wait a couple days to
see if anybody reports big bugs/etc on stable@.  Or, I'll just make world
on one of my workstations and see if I notice anything broken.  If,
after a few days, everything looks good, I'll go ahead and make world on
the production servers.  If you want to keep your production systems in
production, be smart about upgrading.

-pete
[who was thinking about making some analogy to IOS, but I'm too lazy to
type up one of the many nightmares that resulted from IOS upgrades when
we didn't look for bug reports/etc]


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