Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:04:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com> To: "Albert D. Cahalan" <acahalan@cs.uml.edu> Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, mhagerty@voyager.net Subject: Re: Article: Network performance by OS Message-ID: <200106162104.f5GL4dX02015@earth.backplane.com> References: <200106162031.f5GKVfm16209@saturn.cs.uml.edu>
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:> If you intend to push a system to its limits, you damn well better
:> be prepared to tune it properly or you are just wasting your time.
:> On any operating system. You will never find joe-user running his
:> system into the ground with thousands of simultanious connections
:> and ten thousand files in a mail directory, so it's silly to
:> configure the system from a joe-user perspective.
:
:So every FreeBSD server requires an expensive admin to tune it?
:That Win2K solution is looking good now. :-)
:
:These admins now... they never quit their job at just the wrong
Huh? I'm talking about a reasonably smart 16 year old kid who bothers
to spend a little time learning how a platform works. I don't
know what you are talking about. Expensive sysadmin? Where did that
come from? Any bozo with half a brain who has spent more then a week
playing with FreeBSD in a serious way can tune it better then the idiots
who ran the benchmark.
A person who depends on the ability to run an out-of-the-box solution
into the ground and actually expects it to perform well without having
to know the first thing about the platform he is running his software
on is a complete and utter idiot and the company that employs such a
person has a hellofalot more to worry about then the performance of an
untuned machine.
The reality in the world is that most of these so-called benchmarks are
meaningless. This one happens to be worse then normal, especially when
the less informed masses start quoting them. People like me, who have
actually HAD real unplanned loads smash into their FreeBSD boxes, know
exactly how good FreeBSD is in handling those loads. No contrived
benchmark can match real world results. I mean, give me a break,
create and delete 10,000 files in a directory with softupdates turned
off? The only time I ever had more then 10,000 queue files in a directory
was running BEST, supporting 30,000+ users and some insanely huge
mailing lists. Anyone actually running that kind of load had better be
able to afford (or be) a sysop who at least knows his ass from a hot rock!
-Matt
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