Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:09:37 -0400 From: "David A. Panariti" <davep@who.net> To: "Drew Derbyshire" <avatar+pop3@kew.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Staying *really stable* in FreeBSD Message-ID: <200106220409.f5M49b429872@baloo.ne.mediaone.net> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:09:10 EDT." <006c01c0fac8$b55f0380$94cba8c0@xena>
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>>>>> "Drew" == Drew Derbyshire <avatar+pop3@kew.com> writes: No, I didn't say to automate the cvsup/build/merge, *just* the moving of the tag. I don't think cvsup/build/merge is automatable. But pieces of it are, like the services provided by mergemaster. I *could* do all of the comparisons and merging by hand, but instead there is a tool that does the tedious, automatable part but leaves the human in charge. The script doesn't forget to look at files, or put the merged copies in the correct place. We've reduced the our opportunity to make mistakes and reserved the right to make judgements. All I'm saying is that it would be nice for there to be a tag that identifies the source that is considered to be the most stable with the most conservative sets of changes applied. And that at any time that tag can be used. This is exactly the same as using RELENG_X_Y and changing it by hand as needed. A person interested in doing this kind of tracking will follow the mailing list, make decisions on when to cvsup, etc. They just won't edit the supfile. This is the way I'd like to stay "stable." For me, this is the best mix of stability, security and access to new features. And this would be an new tag. If you don't want to use it, don't. But don't prevent me from using it just because you don't like it. This is way too much discussion about way too simple of an idea. I should just expend the effort on automating the process locally. Does anyone know if there is a way to query all of the tags available to cvsup? Then I could get that list and look for a bump in the major or minor parts of the current RELENG tag, create a sed script and edit the supfile that way. I just hate to type, unless I'm typing code. Or blathering in emails. Fortunately, I very much prefer to code. regards, davep Drew> This assumes you can safely suddenly change releases with no Drew> real human intervention (such as running mergemaster). Bad Drew> idea. >> >>>>> "Valentin" == Valentin Nechayev <netch@iv.nn.kiev.ua> writes: >> It is not a matter of knowing it needs changing, it is a matter of >> changing it. Any time a procedure and be automated, it should be. >> It should be one's choice whether or not to use the automation, >> however. That's why I suggest a new tag rather than redefining an >> existing one. Drew> . . . >> Given these two lists, Occam's razor would, I think, select the >> zero length list as the simpler one. -- Did I say 2? I lied. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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