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Date:      Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:58:01 -0700
From:      "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral
Message-ID:  <20010712105801.B13401@dragon.nuxi.com>
In-Reply-To: <3B4DDF30.9CEAAAFB@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:32:32AM -0700
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On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:32:32AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> 1)	Soft Updates enabled on a root partition.
> 
> 	This comes back to the old "you can't turn SU
> 	on or off, except via tunefs".  So even if you
> 	boot via CDROM, it's too late, if the CDROM
> 	kernel supports SU, since it's already on, and
> 	you can't substitute an async mount.

Why not?  The install kernel does not have SOFTUPDATES enabled.
Can one not mount a parition aync if the softupdates flag was set via
tunefs in the past [and the running kernel does not support them]?


> 2)	Most of my upgrades are over a network, not
> 	booting off of CDROM.

How are you running sysinstall?  I do not know what you mean by "over the
network".  To me that means you have made the two boot floppy set and
used that -- the "network" part is where you are getting your
distribution sets from.  In this case, you *are* running sysinstal as
init.  Perhaps I do not fully understand how you are doing this.

> 3)	The default in 4.3-RELEASE is to have the IDE
> 	write caching off.

If you submit a patch to add the proper entries to /boot/loader.conf in
the MFSROOT image, I'd commit it.  This would ensure the installation
process always runs with write cashing on.

- 
-- David  (obrien@FreeBSD.org)

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