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Date:      Tue, 2 Oct 2001 04:39:27 -0500
From:      D J Hawkey Jr <hawkeyd@visi.com>
To:        Christian Kratzer <ck@cksoft.de>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Cc:        Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net>
Subject:   Re: login.conf & FreeBSD 4.4
Message-ID:  <20011002043927.A95391@sheol.localdomain>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110020929530.7417-100000@localhost.cksoft.de>; from ck@cksoft.de on Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 09:33:31AM %2B0200
References:  <200110020907.f9297d695258@sheol.localdomain> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110020929530.7417-100000@localhost.cksoft.de>

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On Oct 02, at 09:33 AM, Christian Kratzer wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, D J Hawkey Jr wrote:
> 
> > In article <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110020953290.6866-100000_localhost.cksoft.de@ns.sol.net>,
> > 	ck@cksoft.de writes:
> > >
> > > If you are talking about cgi scripts run by apache you might want to
> > > patch suexec to do this. There is nothgin in apache that would normally
> > > set the requested privilidges.
> > >
> > > we added following to apache-x-x-x/src/support/suexec.c to actually
> > > enforce setting of resource limits. There is nothing in apache that would
> > > normally set these up for you.
> > >
> > > 	[SNIP]
> >
> > Reading between the lines, are you saying that any app "not from FreeBSD"
> > running on FreeBSD isn't likely to be accounted for because they pro'lly
> > don't set up limiting resources (by way of the C function you hacked in)?
> >
> > Badly phrased, I know, but you get my drift?
> 
> it's not as bad as you may think.
> 
> Any user logging in through the "usual" channels like sshd,telnetd,console,etc...
> should get the limits automatically setup for them.

Running X apps remotely falls into the above group, I assume?

> We only need to patch applications like apache which start child processes
> and use seteuid() to change their effective uid etc...  and are not aware of
> the freebsd specific possibilities.

This make sense [to me], but Peter seems to disagree. Can either of you
address the other's position?

> Greetings
> Christian

Thanks,
Dave

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