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Date:      Sat, 17 Nov 2001 14:01:56 -0500
From:      parv <parv_@yahoo.com>
To:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: how to modify a "word" definition
Message-ID:  <20011117140156.A82747@moo.holy.cow>
In-Reply-To: <15350.28513.309480.583151@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 08:08:33AM -0600
References:  <25403662@toto.iv> <15350.28513.309480.583151@guru.mired.org>

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in message <15350.28513.309480.583151@guru.mired.org>, 
wrote Mike Meyer thusly...
>
> parv <parv_@yahoo.com> types:
> > i need help to search for information on how to modify/change
> > a program's definition of a "word".  the  programs that i am
> > most interested are: bash 2.04, vi (bsd), mutt "reader", slrn
> > "reader".
> [...]
> > my definition of a word would be:
> >   a character sequence which does not any white space and 
> >   other special character(s). the special characters are
> >   adjustable.
> 
> That's reasonable. The only real questions are whether you can adjust
> the special characters, and how you do so if you can. The answer is
> usually in the man pages - though it may not be one you like.

i didn't find much in manpages for bash, vi, and mutt. however, i did
find some relevant information for zsh. but as you said...

> > (ps: if you tried to "select" (copy in X) the above url, you would 
> > know my pain.)
> 
> This makes me think you're talking about select in X. That makes the
> programs - definitely for bash, and probably for the others as well,
> unless they've changed since I last used them - irrelevant. What
> handles selection is the *terminal emulator* you're running, so that's
> the man page you need to look at. 

obviously i combined the two problems; sorry about that. one is how to 
change "native" behaviour of bash, vi etc. as far as word definition 
goes like deleting, moving around, and copying. 

and other, that i 'm more concerned about, is, of course, selecting "word" 
in X. i realized later what you said above.

thanks for the pointer to look for for terminal emulators documentations. 


> I use good old xterm, and for that,
> the manual section in question is "Character classes". It's to long to
> quote completely, but I've been using it for years and it works like a
> charm. The relevant entry in my .Xresources file is "XTerm*charClass:
> 33-47:48,58-64:48,91-96:48,123-126:48".
> 
> If you're using one of the alternative terminal emulators, you'll have
> to check their manual pages. Some of them dumped "relatively unusused"
> features like this, so it may not be there.

thanks again. currently i am using aterm. if the problem isn't solved
there, i will try xterm.

- parv

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