Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:46:43 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> To: Anthony Atkielski <anthony@atkielski.com> Cc: setantae <setantae@submonkey.net>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120024643.B92409@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:37:35AM %2B0100 References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <E1667rO-0002md-00@mrvdom03.schlund.de> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
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On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:37:35AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
> No, I mean that they are all overcomplicated and bloated, compared to non=
-GUI
> systems.
This is a tautological statement ("code which needs to do more
complicated things is more complicated and larger").
> There is no such thing as a simple GUI with Windows-equivalent
> functionality. And complex GUIs have more of a tendency to crash; occasi=
onally
> they make take the OS with them, depending on their design and the design=
of the
> OS.
This is an overgeneralization; under FreeBSD it's very rare for a
window manager bug to "take out the OS". Even if the X server crashes
the system still runs.
> > That's simply not true.
>=20
> It's absolutely true. There's no such thing as a system that never crash=
es.
> GUIs tend to crash a lot more than non-GUIs, because of their complexity.
To be pedantic, it is true. In real terms, well-written and
well-tested simple window managers rarely have catastrophic bugs. I
can't remember the last time I had problems with windowmaker, for
example.
Kris
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