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Date:      Fri, 23 Nov 2001 05:43:28 +1300
From:      Joerg Micheel <joerg@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
To:        Harti Brandt <brandt@fokus.gmd.de>
Cc:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: sysctls for hardware monitoring?
Message-ID:  <20011123054328.A8944@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
In-Reply-To: <20011122120233.B2946-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de>; from brandt@fokus.gmd.de on Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 12:08:16PM %2B0100
References:  <15356.54999.36663.125374@guru.mired.org> <20011122120233.B2946-100000@beagle.fokus.gmd.de>

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On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Harti Brandt wrote:
> It's just annoying to need a special program to get at the values. For
> some parts of the MIB, like the interface MIB, even sysctl doesn't help -
> you need to write a program to look at these. I still think, its easier to
> read the fan speed by cat(1)-ing a file, than to fire up a special
> program for this.

It really is user convenience against kernel bloat. I have a Linux
device driver which tries to provice a /proc entry. The amount of
printf() style crap in there is really disgusting and it does not even
report half of what it should. I've long ago decided that for anything
other than the trivial case a binary interface is the only way one can
deal with these situations. It is unfortunate for the few of us who
like Plan9, but how big a bitter pill are you prepared to swallow.

	Joerg
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