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Date:      Sat, 15 Dec 2001 13:56:35 -0800
From:      David Greenman <dg@root.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>, Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>, rsharpe@ns.aus.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Does anyone know if the Broadcom BCM5700 has problems with HW csum?
Message-ID:  <20011215135635.A86349@nexus.root.com>
In-Reply-To: <3C1B32EB.ACBA8DB@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 03:24:27AM -0800
References:  <3C1AEA9E.6010502@ns.aus.com> <20011214214118.A30560@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <3C1AF362.534BD2F7@mindspring.com> <20011215005739.A84861@nexus.root.com> <20011215031304.N79896@elvis.mu.org> <20011215011045.C84861@nexus.root.com> <3C1B32EB.ACBA8DB@mindspring.com>

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>David Greenman wrote:
>> Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>> >You're probably incorrect, it doesn't matter if vlan tags are active
>> >or not, it's most likely wheather or not the firmware is being asked
>> >to handle them at all.
>> 
>>    I would think it would get the checksum wrong most of the time if that
>> were the case. It seems to only have problems with small packets, but the
>> behavior is pretty strange, so who knows. Do you have some specific knowledge
>> about Broadcom and brokeness related to VLAN tag support when not using
>> VLANs?
>
>If it's very small payload, it's probably a byte-order-in-buffer
>issue (several Eagle manufactured cards had similar problems, and
>so did the NE1000, when it came to DMA transfers, back when 16 bit
>transfers were new 8^).

   The packet itself is fine, it's just the checksum that the hardware
calculates is wrong.

>For VLANs, yes, there are specific problems known with the Broadcom
>cards when the firmware support for VLANs is enabled.  The first card
>known to work with checksum offload enable and VLAN support enabled
>(whether it's used or not) is the Tigon III.  I don't know if Bill
>Paul fixed the firmware for the Tigon II in this case (he has been
>known to hack Tigon II firmware), but it could have been fixed by now.
>
>In any case, disabling it is what ClickArray ended up doing, as well,
>for the Tigon II, until the firmware could be fixed.

   We're talking about the Tigon III (bge driver for Broadcom BCM5700/BCM5701).

-DG

David Greenman
Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org
President, TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com
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