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Date:      Fri, 18 Jan 2002 01:07:01 -0800
From:      "Crist J . Clark" <cjc@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>
Cc:        Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.ORG>, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG>, Joerg Wunsch <j@uriah.heep.sax.de>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/gnu/usr.bin/man/man Makefile man.c src/etc/mtree BSD.local.dist BSD.usr.dist BSD.x11-4.dist BSD.x11.dist
Message-ID:  <20020118010701.F40472@blossom.cjclark.org>
In-Reply-To: <p0510121fb86cbc57674c@[128.113.24.47]>; from drosih@rpi.edu on Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 01:09:18PM -0500
References:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1020116145639.73036A-100000@fledge.watson.org> <p05101217b86b93b7e1cd@[128.113.24.47]> <20020117100308.B27310@sunbay.com> <p0510121fb86cbc57674c@[128.113.24.47]>

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On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 01:09:18PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> At 10:03 AM +0200 1/17/02, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> >On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 04:09:37PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
> >  > In my case, I have about a dozen man pages that I reference a
> >  > lot, and a lot of man pages that I never reference.  If something
> >  > could keep track of which pages were actually referenced a lot,
> >  > then some system daemon could generate cat-versions of just those
> >  > man pages.
> >
> >catpages take less space than manpages, so I don't see a reason to
> >fine grain this.  For tonight's -CURRENT:
> >
> >du -skc /usr/share/man/man* | tail -1
> >7800    total
> >du -skc /usr/share/man/cat* | tail -1
> >6599    total
> 
> Note that you are comparing "all cat pages and no man pages" to
> "all man pages and no cat pages".  In that sense, yes, cat pages may
> take up less space than man pages.  The reality is that people will
> always have all the man pages,

Why's that? "Other OSes" do just distribute catpages. Most people
don't need the markup pages. If you only ever use man(1), you don't
really need markup pages.

(I'm not advocating installing catpages without manpages as the
default.)

> so generating all the cat pages is
> always more disk space than *not* generating all the cat pages.
> 
> In my case, the issue is really more of build times.  I rebuild my
> systems pretty often, and I would just as soon keep the buildworld
> times as short as possible.

Making buildworld "fast" is not really a major design concern.
-- 
Crist J. Clark                     |     cjclark@alum.mit.edu
                                   |     cjclark@jhu.edu
http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/    |     cjc@freebsd.org

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