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Date:      Mon, 21 Jan 2002 03:25:58 +0300
From:      "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
To:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>
Cc:        Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Step5, pam_opie OPIE auth fix for review
Message-ID:  <20020121002557.GB27831@nagual.pp.ru>
In-Reply-To: <xzpn0z81rrr.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>
References:  <20020120220254.GA25886@nagual.pp.ru> <200201202314.g0KNEDt34526@grimreaper.grondar.org> <20020120233050.GA26913@nagual.pp.ru> <xzpvgdw1sqp.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <20020121000446.GB27206@nagual.pp.ru> <xzpn0z81rrr.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>

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On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 01:17:44 +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> 
> That's what PAM is for.  If fixed (not necessary plaintext!) passwords
> are allowed, the admin will mark pam_opie as "sufficient" and place
> pam_unix below it; if they're not, he'll just remove pam_unix.

It not allows flexible configuration because it is not depends on remote 
host for example. I.e. for some host pam_unix can be chained, but for some 
another - not.

> The current system, BTW, leaves the policy in the hands of the user,
> as she can create or remove ~/.opie_always at will.  A security policy
> which is based on letting the user decide what is sufficient
> authentication and what is not is not a proper security policy.

No, by creating ~/.opiealways user can only _increase_ its own security 
level additionly to pre-setted by sysadmin for him, and can't _decrease_ 
it.

> Actually, that idea won't work, because PAM will ignore PAM_AUTH_ERR
> from a "sufficient" module.  A "requisite" helper module, placed after
> pam_opie, which fails if ~/.opie_always exists would do the trick, if
> one really wanted this.

~/.opiealways checked only if opieaccess() found remote host in the 
/etc/opieaccess table.

Yes, this check can be done as separate PAM module, but why two modules in 
the same area instead of one?

-- 
Andrey A. Chernov
http://ache.pp.ru/

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