Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 12:12:24 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: Ian Pulsford <ianjp@optusnet.com.au>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Abuses of the BSD license? Message-ID: <20020407101223.GA4647@lpt.ens.fr> In-Reply-To: <3CB01A09.C86F98FC@mindspring.com> References: <3CAE7037.801FB15F@optusnet.com.au> <3CAEA028.186ED53E@optusnet.com.au> <20020406105111.A90057@lpt.ens.fr> <3CAEDDD2.2ADA819F@mindspring.com> <20020406114505.GA2576@lpt.ens.fr> <3CAEE4A1.315CF53@mindspring.com> <20020406191209.GA3203@lpt.ens.fr> <3CAF8204.5E93CE38@mindspring.com> <20020407084801.GA4429@lpt.ens.fr> <3CB01A09.C86F98FC@mindspring.com>
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Terry Lambert said on Apr 7, 2002 at 03:06:01: > > > That looks, to me, like effectively dropping the BSD licence terms, > > since you don't know what they apply to; sure you can find out with > > some research, but you could have done that anyway, given just a BSD > > copyright notice and no licence. And when redistributing, you can > > just continue to bundle the BSD licence, now made meaningless by this > > "we're not telling you what pieces" disclaimer. > > Wrong. Without explicit delineation of what it applies to, > you must assume it applies to everything, not that it applies > to nothing -- else why would it be there at all? That was precisely my point with respect to Microsoft: without explicit delineation, how do they (a) include the BSD licence, (b) not imply that it applies to everything they're shipping? To quote from your earlier mail: I wrote > > For your own protection, if you're Microsoft you must make it > > explicitly clear exactly what the BSD licence applies to -- it > > clearly applies to something you're shipping; and surely you can't > > say "this licence applies to some code in our ftp binary, but not > > to the binary as a whole, and if you want to know exactly what it > > applies to and thus take advantage of this licence, you have to go > > find the relevant pieces of source code for yourself; we won't > > help you." To which you wrote: > Sure they can say that. Why couldn't they? Well, can they or can't they? If they can, why can't the GNU folks? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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