Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:06:29 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@online.fr> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Use/Utilize Message-ID: <20020410130629.A16154@lpt.ens.fr> In-Reply-To: <3CB41997.214F408C@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:53:11AM -0700 References: <3CB2125B.8F11C442@mindspring.com> <200204090020.g390KTPL059689@grimreaper.grondar.org> <3CB2733E.F98DD29B@mindspring.com> <20020409132012.F48437@lpt.ens.fr> <3CB3737A.1551931@mindspring.com> <20020410043451.GA1013@lpt.ens.fr> <3CB3DF33.5B677641@mindspring.com> <20020410073309.GA279@lpt.ens.fr> <3CB41997.214F408C@mindspring.com>
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Terry Lambert said on Apr 10, 2002 at 03:53:11: > The answer is that, if the claim is indeed "that you take BSD licensed > code and do what you want with it including putting into your GPL project > under a GPL license", then it is my thesis that the answer to the > question is that there is intentional misuse of language within the > community of the claimants, particularly RMS himself, which could > erroneously lead to that conclusion. Possibly misuse of language within the community, but not in the two licences in question, which are all that matter. Also, the usual confusion of the meaning "free" with "free of charge" has no relevance here: code under a BSD licence is even less obligated to remain "free of charge" than code under the GPL, where at least there is a strong likelihood that the code will always be available from *somewhere* "free of charge". But the people who should be worried are the people who are writing code mixing the two licences; they should read those licences first, and then there will be no doubt about the meaning. > And any thinly disguised defense of intentional misuse of the English > language in order to obfuscate the matter is merely that -- an attempt > to obfuscate the matter. Actually the real dispute here was a fine legal point about what exactly is allowed by the BSD licence. Any attempt to obfuscate that matter, with allegations of "intentional misuse of language" in the "community" in the contexts of "use/utilize" and "free software" is, as you say, merely that -- an attempt to obfuscate the matter. R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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