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Date:      Wed, 08 May 2002 09:02:15 +0100
From:      Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
To:        Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: The future of perl on FreeBSD 
Message-ID:  <200205080802.g4882FjV006670@grimreaper.grondar.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1020507202743.83455K-100000@fledge.watson.org> ; from Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>  "Tue, 07 May 2002 20:33:04 EDT."
References:  <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1020507202743.83455K-100000@fledge.watson.org> 

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> First question is -- people are going to be upgrading FreeBSD.  Having a
> stale /usr/bin/perl is going to muck stuff up royally.  Likewise, many
> existing scripts use /usr/bin/perl at that location.  Can we simply have a
> symlink that points /usr/bin/perl at /usr/local/bin/perl (and any related
> pseudo-programs such as suidperl, etc) as part of the normal install along
> with the perl package.

DES(?) has a piece of code (to be called /usr/bin/perl) that will find the
"real" perl and DTRT.

>                         Likewise, it would be good to clear out the lib
> stuff if we can to prevent the inevitable breakage there during the
> upgrade.  If we hook symlink creation into the build, that would also
> force us buildworld/installworld'ers to install the package, which would
> improve exposure.  Do Perl applications typically hard code paths, or just
> rely on Perl to "know where to look"? 

Perl knows where to look for its libraries. We have the precedent of
telnet cleaning out libtelnet; I'm sure we can put a temporary perl-
killer in some makefile (Part of "make installworld"? Part of mergemaster?)
to clean up.

> Second -- are you volunteering to clean up the applications that are
> as-yet unclaimed?  DES has started on sockstat, and there's been an
> on-going effort to fix the build to not need perl (now completed).  Or at
> least, can you coordinate the effort via a task list, etc?

If we go that route, no problem.

> Third -- is this something you envision hitting RELENG_4, or just 5.0?

NO WAY! CURRENT only.

M
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