Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 22:56:00 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Valentine <mark@thuvia.demon.co.uk> To: Doug Barton <DougB@freebsd.org> Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Package system flaws? Message-ID: <200207142156.g6ELu0E4080283@dotar.thuvia.org> In-Reply-To: Doug Barton's message of Jul 14, 2:20pm
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> From: Doug Barton <DougB@freebsd.org> > Date: Sun 14 Jul, 2002 > Subject: Re: Package system flaws? > Mark Valentine wrote: > > 1. Packages install to /usr/local by default; > > Yes, and it's incredibly likely that they always will. Unfortunately there are too many people who don't seem to see the bigger picture. :-( > First, you can set PREFIX to be something else in your > /etc/make.conf file, Doesn't work for packages, only ports. Hence my interest in the recent discussion of making install-time relocation work. > Second, you can set a different directory to be your "really > local" directory, and set your "long-standing (since 4.2BSD) > cross-platform administrative policies" any way you want. Right, change the world because of a single OS vendor's mistake. I then have to deal with conflicts with systems and software which _want_ you to use /usr/local for this purpose. I hate kludges and inconsistencies. My workaround to date has been to steer clear of FreeBSD packages (and while I was at it I avoided ports too, since if I'm already building from source I may as well retain my own policies). Unfortunately, it would be unreasonable for me to suggest my clients do the same, so I am forced to support a different strategy (in this case, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em - everything in /usr/local is a package, and I now have an additional [non-standard] place where local policy is maintained). Maybe one day I'll get used to it enough to migrate my main server. > Asking to > change the default is totally non-productive at this stage of the game. I'm an idealist who believes that mistakes can usually be corrected, given a bit of care with the transition. Cheers, Mark. -- Mark Valentine, Thuvia Labs <mark@thuvia.co.uk> <http://www.thuvia.co.uk>; "Tigers will do ANYTHING for a tuna fish sandwich." Mark Valentine uses "We're kind of stupid that way." *munch* *munch* and endorses FreeBSD -- <http://www.calvinandhobbes.com>; <http://www.freebsd.org>; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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