Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:18:46 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Valentine <mark@thuvia.demon.co.uk> To: jos@catnook.com, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Package system flaws? Message-ID: <200207151718.g6FHIkof007662@dotar.thuvia.org> In-Reply-To: Jos Backus's message of Jul 15, 4:38pm
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> From: jos@catnook.com (Jos Backus) > Date: Mon 15 Jul, 2002 > Subject: Re: Package system flaws? > On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 08:14:08PM +0200, Thomas Seck wrote: > > I think it is good not to have everyones' favourite scripting language in > > the base system. > > I agree. Nowhere did I say we should include all of them (that's what the > ports system is for). I'm saying that the current set of tools in the base is > limiting. I can do a heck of a lot with sh/expr/sed/join/etc (and awk when it gets serious), and I try to stick to the POSIX.2 subset. Beyond that there's a perfectly good C compiler. If I have more specialised needs, I'll be installing third party packages in any case, and I'll pick the tools that work for me. > Unless of course you _define_ the base to consist only of these tools. An individual OS can add whatever frills it wants to the "base" system, but it doesn't mean much to me as a proponent of portable software until all the platforms I support do likewise. > We should pick one that has a reasonable chance of being able to be > supported in the base and stick with it. Well, if we can't handle Tcl in the base system, I doubt much else has a look in... > Perl had build and packaging issues > which made it a nightmare to support, fine, so let's pick another one that > does a better job than awk/sh/etc. I'd like to hear you name one that would fit the bill, never mind find a concensus... Cheers, Mark. -- Mark Valentine, Thuvia Labs <mark@thuvia.co.uk> <http://www.thuvia.co.uk>; "Tigers will do ANYTHING for a tuna fish sandwich." Mark Valentine uses "We're kind of stupid that way." *munch* *munch* and endorses FreeBSD -- <http://www.calvinandhobbes.com>; <http://www.freebsd.org>; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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