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Date:      Thu, 5 Sep 2002 06:16:42 +0400
From:      "Andrey A. Chernov" <ache@nagual.pp.ru>
To:        Mikhail Teterin <mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com>
Cc:        i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.ORG>, anholt@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: koi8-r is obsoleted by koi8-u (Re: cvs commit: ports/x11-fonts/XFree86-4-fontCyrillic)
Message-ID:  <20020905021640.GA37309@nagual.pp.ru>
In-Reply-To: <200209041155.15033.mi%2Bmx@aldan.algebra.com>
References:  <200209031042.g83AgFON078508@freefall.freebsd.org> <200209040841.45490@aldan> <20020904140410.GA30776@nagual.pp.ru> <200209041155.15033.mi%2Bmx@aldan.algebra.com>

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On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 11:57:17 -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
> 
> Can you name one scenario, where someone would knowingly prefer a koi8-r
> font over a koi8-u one? In other words, some real application, that

This is not subject of user preferences or user choice. If some program
request koi8-r, it must get koi8-r back exactly, because it *may* use its
special chars. It seems you don't undertsand compatibility issues. If
koi8-r can be replaced, it can be replaced by Unicode only.

> As I mentioned already, koi8-r is obsoleted by koi8-u, let's move on.

I have no time to educate ignorant people, but as FreeBDS localization 
authority, I explicetely forbid any attempts to replace koi8-r with 
something less compatible (i.e. not by Unicode). Is it clear?

> 	. Windows-1251 is hardly a standard
> 	. It is not at all compatible with the things you say it
> 	  can replace (unlike koi8-u, which is hard to distinguish
> 	  from koi8-r)
> 	. It does not provide any more letters over the koi8-u

<humor on>
Windows-1251 is more suitable for modern Cyrillic typography needs then
koi8-u. Lets move on, and replace obsoleted koi8-u not used anywhere. 
Missing rare letters are not valuable as typhography needs and can be 
replaced by other letters.
</humor off>

Enough on this thread from me, see my second paragraph from above as my 
final statement.

-- 
Andrey A. Chernov
http://ache.pp.ru/

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