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Date:      Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:44:22 +0930
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>
Cc:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>, Emiel Kollof <coolvibe@hackerheaven.org>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, n0go013 <ttz@blahdeblah.demon.co.uk>, current <freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: [ GEOM tests ] disklabel warnings and vinum drives lost
Message-ID:  <20021005001422.GP72541@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20021004230324.4DA262A896@canning.wemm.org>
References:  <3D9E0DD8.1C9526DE@mindspring.com> <20021004230324.4DA262A896@canning.wemm.org>

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On Friday,  4 October 2002 at 16:03:24 -0700, Peter Wemm wrote:
> Terry Lambert wrote:
>> Emiel Kollof wrote:
>>> * Peter Wemm (peter@wemm.org) wrote:
>>>> vinum is so much unbelievable stuff in it.  Consider this stuff:
>>>>
>>>> sys/dev/vinum/vinumio.c:
>>
>> [ ... ]
>>
>>>> This crud has *got* to be taken out and shot, then reworked to do it
>>>> properly.
>>>
>>> Amen! (and no, I'm not volunteering. I don't mind cleaning up code, but the
>     re
>>> are limits to what crud I touch)
>>
>>
>> FWIW:
>>
>> The comment right before that code is:
>>
>>     /*
>>      * Yes, Bruce, I know this is horrible, but we
>>      * don't have a root file system when we first
>>      * try to do this.  If you can come up with a
>>      * better solution, I'd really like it.  I'm
>>      * just putting it in now to add ammuntion to
>>      * moving the system to devfs.
>>      */
>>
>> ...basically, when devfs became default, the person who made it
>> default did not maintain this code, when they converted everything
>> else over to using it.
>>
>> The assumption here is that the devfs will be available to the
>> system before the root is mounted transparently over it.
>
> Actually no, this is only used *after* root is mounted.

Now.  Vinum supported the root file system years ago, but there were
objections to the code.  This was a temporary hack which was supposed
to go away quickly, but then there was some pressure for me to give up
maintainership, so I did, and Vinum has had very little maintenance
since.

>> Another alternative is to disable support for mounting vinum plexes
>> as the root filesystem, which is what this code supposedly
>> supports.
>
> Nope.  Vinum doesn't support booting with a plex as a root file
> system. I can't quite say that I understand what this is for though.
> namei() etc are perfectly usable at this point.

It did.

Greg
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