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Date:      Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:34:42 +0930
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
Cc:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>, FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Removing old binaries (was: Do we still need portmap(8)?)
Message-ID:  <20021008010442.GD57557@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20021008004442.GA34414@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
References:  <20021007063250.GF14070@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20021007.112056.119814448.imp@bsdimp.com> <20021007234610.GT14070@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20021008004442.GA34414@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>

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On Monday,  7 October 2002 at 17:44:42 -0700, Steve Kargl wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 09:16:10AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Monday,  7 October 2002 at 11:20:56 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
>>> In message: <20021007063250.GF14070@wantadilla.lemis.com>
>>>             "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.ORG> writes:
>>>> It's been a while since we've used portmap(8) on -CURRENT systems.  Is
>>>> it still needed, or can it be removed completely?  At the very least,
>>>> the man page should stop claiming that it's necessary to run NFS.
>>>
>>> I think that we need a mtree.obsolete that goes through and deletes
>>> these sorts of things as part of installworld/upgrade scripts.
>>
>> I think we can greatly simplify things with one firm but relatively
>> bearable rule:
>>
>>   The directories /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin, <insert others
>>   here> are for the exclusive use of the system installer.  Install
>>   other programs here at your peril: they will be overwritten on the
>>   next installation.
>>
>> There are then dozens of ways of finding the old files and removing
>> them.  I'd be inclined just to remove all files in those directories
>> which are older than some file in the build tree--*after* a successful
>> installation.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>
> What would you do about "install -C"?

I think it confuses the issue rather than solving it.  We're talking
about removing binaries which are no longer needed, not replacing
binaries that are needed.

Greg
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