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Date:      Fri, 15 Nov 2002 19:55:19 +0000
From:      Doug Rabson <dfr@nlsystems.com>
To:        Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>
Cc:        ia64@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: setjmp/longjmp and libc_r [was: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/ia64/gen _setjmp.S]
Message-ID:  <200211151955.19145.dfr@nlsystems.com>
In-Reply-To: <20021115174328.GA4288@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net>
References:  <200211140640.gAE6eNq9016231@repoman.freebsd.org> <200211150909.32267.dfr@nlsystems.com> <20021115174328.GA4288@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net>

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On Friday 15 November 2002 5:43 pm, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 09:09:32AM +0000, Doug Rabson wrote:
> > > > I've managed to reload my memory from magtape :-). To use
> > > > setjmp/longjmp for thread switching, you would need to call
> > > > flushrs from setjmp. That would simplify longjmp at the cost of
> > > > severely pessimising setjmp.
> > >
> > > This is exactly what we now have and what I'm willing to
> > > sacrificy at this time. It's easy enough to optimize
> > > setjmp/longjmp once we have the *context stuff.
> >
> > This is totally wrong.
>
> No, it's a step in different direction than you would have chosen.
> Pick your words with care. See also below.

I didn't choose this direction, Intel recommends it. From the IA-64=20
System Architecture manual, section 15.5.1.1:

=09This permits execution of a setjmp() without having to manipulate any
=09register stack or RSE state. All register stack and RSE manipulation i=
s
=09postponed to the much less frequent longjmp().

>
> > > Note that I'm still not convinced that not doing a flushrs in
> > > setjmp will work when a signal handler on the alternate stack
> > > jumps to the saved context on the regular stack. You cannot
> > > compare the saved ar.bsp or ar.bspstore with the current
> > > ar.bspstore without taking into account that they may not be on
> > > the same register stack.
> >
> > The signal trampoline performs the flushrs when it switches stacks.
>
> Ah, I see. You avoid having the dirty registers on the kernel stack
> by doing an exception restore to the original stack, do a flushrs and
> then switch to the alternate stack. I wondered about this
> hoop-jumping...

This also allows the possibility of saving/restoring the high floating=20
point state in user-mode instead of kernel mode which might be a good=20
thing in some situations.

>
> > For libc_r with the code written this way, you can probably still
> > do thread switching without swapcontext(2) by adding an explicit
> > flushrs before the call to setjmp(3). It would be less effort to
> > write the support for userland or kernel swapcontext though.
>
> I've been looking at that. If by implementing the *context functions
> we speed-up the adoption of *context by libc_r, then I'm willing to
> spend time on it. What I don't want is spending time on *context and
> in the end not have libc_r, due to it not being changed to use it.
>
> Thus: I want people to sign-up for a libc_r that uses *context before
> 5.0-RELEASE, but preferrably tomorrow. A well-intended timeline would
> be very nice...

I want to see a libc_r which uses *context too. Its trivial to write=20
thread switching this way and they are designed for it (i.e. no more MD=20
grovelling around in the jmp_buf to setup the stack etc). I've been=20
using makecontext/switchcontext in my own code and it works very well.=20
Changing libc_r to switch this way should be easy if Dan hasn't already=20
done it.

--=20
Doug Rabson=09=09=09=09Mail:  dfr@nlsystems.com
=09=09=09=09=09Phone: +44 20 8348 6160



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