Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 15:19:51 +1100 From: Darren Reed <darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: Sergey Mokryshev <mokr@mokr.net>, Vallo Kallaste <kalts@estpak.ee>, Sam Leffler <sam@errno.com>, Hiten Pandya <hiten@unixdaemons.com>, Darren Reed <darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au>, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PFIL_HOOKS should be made default in 5.0 Message-ID: <200212220419.PAA21619@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> In-Reply-To: <3E04A746.20C5C72E@mindspring.com>
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In some email I received from Terry Lambert, sie wrote: > Sergey Mokryshev wrote: > > > I'm really not a fan of "NO_PFIL_HOOKS" as an option. > > > > I'm not talking about NO_PFIL_HOOKS but "options PFIL_HOOKS" in GENERIC. > > Too many people may foot shoot themselves trying to upgrade from 4-STABLE > > to 5.0. > > If you make them non-optional, which is what started this thread, > then you *are* talking about having to add an option in to get > rid of them. Seriously, Terry, how many "NO_foo" options exist, today ? > I understand that people all want their pet software to run out > of the box without modification. I'm not the one who wants that, it's people who USE FreeBSD. You remember users, don't you Terry ? :) > > > Probably the correct thing to do is to wire in ipfilter as a > > > Netgraph module. > > > > AFAIK Solaris, HP-UX and others lack Netgraph support, but support pfil. > > They support Streams, instead. Same ecological niche. That's STREAMS thank you very much! I'll talk more on that point in another email. Darren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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