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Date:      Fri, 14 Mar 2003 13:16:02 +1030
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Vallo Kallaste <kalts@estpak.ee>
Cc:        Darryl Okahata <darrylo@soco.agilent.com>, current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Vinum R5 [was: Re: background fsck deadlocks with ufs2 and big disk]
Message-ID:  <20030314024602.GL77236@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20030301184310.GA631@kevad.internal>
References:  <20030220200317.GA5136@kevad.internal> <200302202228.OAA03775@mina.soco.agilent.com> <20030221080046.GA1103@kevad.internal> <20030227012959.GA89235@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030227095302.GA1183@kevad.internal> <20030301184310.GA631@kevad.internal>

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On Saturday,  1 March 2003 at 20:43:10 +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 11:53:02AM +0200, Vallo Kallaste <vallo> wrote:
>
>>>> The vinum R5 and system as a whole were stable without
>>>> softupdates. Only one problem remained after disabling softupdates,
>>>> while being online and user I/O going on, rebuilding of failed disk
>>>> corrupt the R5 volume completely.
>>>
>>> Yes, we've fixed a bug in that area.  It had nothing to do with soft
>>> updates, though.
>>
>> Oh, that's very good news, thank you! Yes, it had nothing to do with
>> soft updates at all and that's why I had the "remained after" in the
>> sentence.
>>
>>>> Don't know is it fixed or not as I don't have necessary hardware at
>>>> the moment. The only way around was to quiesce the volume before
>>>> rebuilding, umount it, and wait until rebuild finished. I'll suggest
>>>> extensive testing cycle for everyone who's going to work with vinum
>>>> R5. Concat, striping and mirroring has been a breeze but not so with
>>>> R5.
>>>
>>> IIRC the rebuild bug bit any striped configuration.
>>
>> Ok, I definitely had problems only with R5, but you certainly know
>> much better what it was exactly. I'll need to lend 50-pin SCSI cable
>> and test vinum again. Will it matter on what version of FreeBSD I'll
>> try on? My home system runs -current of Feb 5, but if you suggest
>> -stable for consistent results, I'll do it.
>
> So I did. Loaned two SCSI disks and 50-pin cable. Things haven't
> improved a bit, I'm very sorry to say it.

Sorry for the slow reply to this.  I thought it would make sense to
try things out here, and so I kept trying to find time, but I have to
admit I just don't have it yet for a while.  I haven't forgotten, and
I hope that in a few weeks time I can spend some time chasing down a
whole lot of Vinum issues.  This is definitely the worst I have seen,
and I'm really puzzled why it always happens to you.

> # simulate disk crash by forcing one arbitrary subdisk down
> # seems that vinum doesn't return values for command completion status
> # checking?
> echo "Stopping subdisk.. degraded mode"
> vinum stop -f r5.p0.s3	# assume it was successful

I wonder if there's something relating to stop -f that doesn't happen
during a normal failure.  But this was exactly the way I tested it in
the first place.

Greg
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