Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 12:47:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Eduardo Viruena Silva <mrspock@esfm.ipn.mx> To: Steve Warwick <ukla@attbi.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netmasks: the truth is out there? Message-ID: <20030429121519.O1228@Gina.esfm.ipn.mx> In-Reply-To: <BAD3FE56.49C3%ukla@attbi.com> References: <BAD3FE56.49C3%ukla@attbi.com>
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On Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Steve Warwick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I know someone out there knows the truth about netmasks. All the
> documentation I can find on the net talks about "masking off" part of the IP
> address and how you can tell network from subnet and host ids.
>
> However, I have knowledgeable friend who is telling me that the netmask is
> also dependant on how the hosting company has set up their routing tables
> and incorrect netmasking on my part can reduce or halt my connection.
>
> So the question is, who is right? Is it as simple as just masking off the
> first three octets or does the netmask interact with the router?
>
> Please point me to an authoritative source or if you have the time, a brief
> description of if or how the netmask has to match the router, as I am not
> sure what questions to ask my hosting company.
>
suppose computer A and B with:
IPA: a1.a2.a3.a4 MaskA: ma1.ma2.ma3.ma4
and
IPB: b1.b2.b3.b4 MaskB: mb1.mb2.mb3.mb4
Of course, a1 ... a4 and b1...b4 are integer numbers in [0..255],
that is, they are bytes.
-----example-------
ma1 ... ma4 are also bytes, but build with leading 1's till
certain bit. If you have a mask of 24 bits you have:
11111111.11111111.11111111.00000000
written in binary, equivalent to:
255.255.255.0
in decimal.
if you have a mask of 26 bytes you have:
11111111.11111111.11111111.11000000
written in binary, equivalent to:
255.255.255.192
in decimal.
----------------------
Surely you know how to make a bitwise AND between IPA and MaskA,
I mean:
IPA & MaskA = (a1 & ma1).(a2 & ma2).(a3 & ma3).(a4 & ma4)
IPB & MaskB = (b1 & mb1).(b2 & mb2).(b3 & mb3).(a4 & mb4)
Now, IPA and IPB are in the same subnet if:
IPA & MaskA == IPB & MaskB
if not, they need a router to communicate.
Let show an example:
Lets suppose you have:
IPA= 192.168.123.244
MaskA= 255.255.255.0
IPB= 192.168.123.120
MaskB= 255.255.255.0
Now, IPA & MaskA = 192.168.123.0
IPB & MaskB = 192.168.123.0
They are in the same subnet, you do not require a router.
But....
IPA= 192.168.123.218
MaskA= 255.255.255.128
IPB= 192.168.123.66
MaskB= 255.255.255.128
Makes:
IPA & MaskA = 192.168.123.128
IPB & MaskB = 192.168.123.0
They do require a router to connect.
>
> ---
>
> My current rc.conf entry looks like this (these ips are bogus) - no
> broadcast and FreeBSD seems happy with this.
>
> defaultrouter="123.456.789.1"
^ ^ these are not valid IP numbers.
> ifconfig_rl0="inet 123.456.789.111 netmask 255.255.240.0"
^ ^ neither are these.
> ifconfig_rl0_alias0="inet 123.456.789.112 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> <+7 other aliases>
remember: IP must be built out of BYTES, numbers in [0..255]
but you cannot use 0 or 255 in the last byte, because they have special
meanings.
>
>
> Thoughts, suggestions, links ?
>
>
> TIA
>
>
> Steve
>
>
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