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Date:      Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:38:32 +0200
From:      Thomas Moestl <t.moestl@tu-bs.de>
To:        harti@freebsd.org
Cc:        sparc64@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ponderous 'make world' times post GCC 3.3...
Message-ID:  <20030813163832.GA779@crow.dom2ip.de>
In-Reply-To: <20030813180823.W97608@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de>
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On Wed, 2003/08/13 at 18:12:09 +0200, Harti Brandt wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Steve Ames wrote:
> 
> SA>
> SA>----- Original Message -----
> SA>From: "Harti Brandt" <brandt@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
> SA>> I have actually two machines and two kernels: one machine runs with
> SA>> WITNESS and DIAGNOSTICS and the other without that. On both machines
> SA>> the current kernel is three times slower than the old kernel. Of course
> SA>> the debugging kernels are even slower than the non-debugging ones. But,
> SA>> the three times ratio between old and new kernels is the same on both
> SA>> machines.
> SA>
> SA>Ah. Well that blows my theory :) However... in January my system took around
> SA>4 hours to do 'make world' and it still does with today's code (if I don't
> SA>have
> SA>debug options turned on). So I'm not sure there is a global 3x increase.
> 
> Well, you're the 2nd one who reports that nothing has changed. Several
> people however report, that they see the 3x increase. And I see it myself,
> no matter how often I look at this. Today I tried to build the vinum
> module:
> 
> gcc-3.3.1	yesterday's kernel	132 + 85 + 20
> gcc-3.2.2	yesterday's kernel	131 + 85 + 22
> gcc-3.2.2	kernel from June 1st	 52 + 27 +  7
> 
> Exactly the same config and the same world (except for gcc).
> 
> This is an Ultra10. Perhaps it depends on the sparc model?

FWIW, I'm not seeing this either on my Blade 100; with kernels from
Jun 1 and Aug 11, both built with gcc 3.3.1, a complete kernel build
takes the same time down to a few seconds. I'm running world builds
right now.

It would be very interesting if you could narrow the change down to a
shorter time span by binary search.

	- Thomas

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