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Date:      Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:30:27 -0700 (PDT)
From:      twig les <twigles@yahoo.com>
To:        Randi Harper <sektie@freebsdgirl.com>, Mike Hoskins <mike@adept.org>
Cc:        advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD as a desktop OS was Re: Sorry
Message-ID:  <20030924163027.60899.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <C07187E9-EE55-11D7-B2EE-000393D46EC6@freebsdgirl.com>

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Neener neener?  Hahaha.  I think the point is that RH is
shooting to be a desktop for ppl who can't recompile a kernel,
will never know how to recompile a kernel and don't ever want to
know what a kernel is.  The key is abstraction...*heavy*
abstraction.  I point again to Mac.

To get FreeBSD on my laptop I had to recompile the kernel for my
NIC, and it took me awhile to figure out that when I enabled
sound (another kernel rebuild) I had to tell it in the kernel to
use a specific IRQ bc it booted my NIC out of its IRQ.  This
isn't whining, aside from some frustration I enjoyed learning
the OS better, but my dad will *never* do that.  Neither will my
wife, sister, the lady in HR, the CFO, etc.

To be honest I'm not sure what conclusion to draw from my own
line of reasoning.  I don't like the idea of core FBSD members
working on making a GUI for everything under the sun, but
without a team doing constant and professional coding I don't
see what chance we have of surplanting M$ and stopping my
mailbox from filling up with virii.

--- Randi Harper <sektie@freebsdgirl.com> wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 06:35  PM, Mike Hoskins
> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Johnson David wrote:
> >>> So if we combine X with FreeBSD we've got a desktop OS :)
> >> I'm using FreeBSD + XFree86 + KDE as my primary desktop at
> work and at
> >> home. But no one believes me. Even when they see me calmly
> working at
> >> my desk they don't believe me.
> >
> > let me guess -- they have pointy hair too.  ;)
> >
> > seriously...  for anyone that's doubtful (surely no one
> here), FreeBSD
> > makes a great desktop OS.  more apps and utils are available
> every day,
> > emulation helps a lot, and there are more window managers in
> the ports
> > collection than you can shake a stick at!
> >
> Anyone that says FreeBSD doesn't make a good desktop doesn't
> know what 
> they are talking about, in my opinion. It may take a little
> more work 
> than redhat, but that's life. When I got my very first laptop,
> I wanted 
> to install FreeBSD on it, and a very annoying person told me
> "That'll 
> never happen, FreeBSD developers aren't concerned about laptop
> support. 
> FreeBSD is for servers."  How he knows what the developers are
> 
> 'concerned about', I'm still not certain. FreeBSD worked
> fabulously on 
> my laptop.
> 
> neener neener.
> 
> 
> Randi Harper
> 
> sektie@freebsdgirl.com
> http://freebsdgirl.com
> 
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