Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:47:34 -0500 From: "Michael W. Oliver" <michael@gargantuan.com> To: Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org> Cc: Vlad Galu <dudu@diaspar.rdsnet.ro> Subject: Re: Dummy Network Interface Message-ID: <20040115204734.GA61637@gargantuan.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1040115150648.74950A-100000@fledge.watson.org> References: <20040115053524.2c6e8db2.dudu@diaspar.rdsnet.ro> <Pine.NEB.3.96L.1040115150648.74950A-100000@fledge.watson.org>
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--jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 03:07:20PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: >=20 > On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Vlad Galu wrote: >=20 > > |On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 ms419@freezone.co.uk wrote: > > | > > |> How does one create a dummy network interface in FreeBSD?=20 > > | > > |Dummy in what sense? An interface where the packets are simply > > |dropped? if_tap and if_tun both provide pseudo-device in /dev that a > > |userspace process can attach to in order to emulate a network interface > > |(used by VMWare, ppp, various tunneling bits, ...) In the absense of a > > |process sitting on the device, they simply drop the packets. Although > > |they may get garbage-collected if unused on -CURRENT... You can also > > |use netgraph to bring pseudo-interfaces, perhaps without anywhere for > > |packets to go.=20 > > | > > |And, I suppose, create in what sense? Are you looking at this from a > > |developer perspective, or you just need one from a user perspective.= =20 > > |If writing a device driver (and hence needing a starting point), if_tap > > |and if_tun are fairly decent models for a pseudo-interface. > >=20 > > I think he could use the discard interface smoothly. On Linux > > (from which the dummy interface notion is taken from) it is simply used > > for testing purposes, as in routing, or perhaps socket programming. I > > personally have used it for a while, but then I used interface aliasing, > > which became a habit.=20 >=20 > Does the discard interface in Linux "act like" another type of interface, > such as point-to-point, ethernet, etc?=20 I believe that he was referring to the discard interface in FreeBSD. I don't know about Linux at all, but I have used the discard interface in a FreeBSD router much like a Null interface in a cisco router. pseudo-device disc man 4 disc --=20 Mike perl -e 'print unpack("u","88V]N=3D&%C=3D\"!I;F9O(&EN(&AE861E<G,*");' --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFABvxmsWv7q8X6o8kRAp84AKClbym8gn2fw5GBT8Y0WueBxA1wBgCgoAHg hQMeng7DTy6fqFCQ9AaPpX4= =+Mw+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP--
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