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Date:      Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:24:16 -0600
From:      "Jacques A. Vidrine" <nectar@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Michael Nottebrock <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
Cc:        Oliver Eikemeier <eikemeier@fillmore-labs.com>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/multimedia/xine Makefile
Message-ID:  <20040330142416.GJ10949@lum.celabo.org>
In-Reply-To: <406912E7.4040806@gmx.net>
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On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 08:25:43AM +0200, Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> Right, and I have no problem with that (I _like_ portaudit :-)). However, 
> it seems to me that marking ports FORBIDDEN for security reasons is more or 
> less obsoleted (and made redundant) by portaudit/VuXML and committers 
> having to hand-scan VuXML for updates and mark ports FORBIDDEN by hand just 
> seems like duplicated (and error-prone) work... so maybe it's time to to 
> away with marking ports FORBIDDEN for security reasons completely?

Maybe :-)

> Also, what eik says about integrating portaudit into sysinstall (does this 
> imply moving portaudit into the base-system at some point?) sounds very 
> good to me, but I still don't like security-by-default schemes which can't 
> be disabled by flipping a switch. FORBIDDEN ports are an example for this, 
> forcing users to hand-edit a port Makefile in order to make it buildable 
> (especially when the security issue is really minor or I'm not even 
> affected) is just a tad too BOFH-ish for my taste.

Well, a reason I mentioned `hooks' to Oliver is because I have my own
unfinished scheme for managing this issue.  It takes a different
approach than portaudit, that I think you'd like.  But I don't want to
say more because it is vaporware until release :-)

Basically, any attempt to integrate such vulnerability checking into
pkg_* tools or bsd.port.mk needs to be done so that tools can plug-in.
In that fashion, users have a choice of security policy.  The commit of
a `Vulnerability Check' to bsd.port.mk happened under my radar, so I
didn't comment on it at the time.  It may or may not be sufficient for
hooks as it is now.

Cheers,
-- 
Jacques Vidrine / nectar@celabo.org / jvidrine@verio.net / nectar@freebsd.org



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