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Date:      Wed, 28 Jul 2004 23:55:27 -0700 (PDT)
From:      DK <asdzxc111@yahoo.com>
To:        Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: BigApache for Windows - Why doesn't BSD have an installer
Message-ID:  <20040729065528.59993.qmail@web41008.mail.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <200407281818.i6SIIUc01719@clunix.cl.msu.edu>

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--- Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@clunix.cl.msu.edu> wrote:
> > - Installing Packages is nice & easy & straight forward from the
> docs(should be more of these!)
> > - Installing ports/packages via ftp/net - Forget it!!
> > I have barely got BSD running, the last thing I want is connecting a BSD 
> > box to my broadband
> > connection ?? Does BSD have a default firewall ?? Don't know, having 
> > trouble installing stuff let
> > alone configuring a firewall via scripts/files
> 
> You are probably better off and more secure with an initial install, with
> no additional work or tweaking, of FreeBSD on the net than you would be
> with a MS system with every know "fix" available.   The system is 
> inherently more secure and in addition - and maybe partially because of
> this - fewer, by far,  attempts at cracking FreeBSD are made than are
> made against MS systems.  Some of this is, of course, because there are
> much fewer FreeBSD systems out there to tempt kiddies.  But, the fact
> that cracking FreeBSD is more difficult contributes to this effect.

So if I do a default install of FreeBSD & then connect to the net for
ports/packages, is there a default firewall running in the background ??



 
> 
> > Then its going step by step with the install guides & when I try to install
> MySQL, I type #
> > groupadd mysql & I get "command not found" ... ??? no idea, I am following
> the install guides...
> > now if I am doing the same as everyone else with a fresh install of BSD,
> why is it no one else
> > gets groupadd mysql "command not found" ??
> 
> What does "commmand not found" sound like it means?
> The shell doesn't know how to find the command you typed in.
> Either you didn't update your search path to include the directory
> it is in or it didn't get installed correctly where it should be.
> Probably the first is true.  So, find out where it should be and
> add that directory to the path.   See man path.

thnx, will check out the path.



> Again, you are much safer on the net with a FreeBSD system.
> Just do it.   I do all my installs over the net.
> Do use appropriate precautions such as ssh instead of telnet and ssl
> protected sites where possible and check md5-s of downloaded files.
> But, don't let it stop you from using it with FreeBSD.


Do you install FreeBSD first & connect to the net for ports/packages, or
install the actual FreeBSD OS from the /stand/sysinstall & select the net ??



 
> It sounds a lot like you may have some processes wanting to check
> themselves via the net upon startup that are holding things up
> during boot.   They will each wait until they time out before
> things move on.   I have several dual-boot machines, WinXP/FreeBSD,
> Win2k/FreeBSd and Win95/FreeBSD and they all boot in about the same
> amount of time with the FreeBSD being maybe a mite faster to get to
> my login than the MS stuff being able to get to a state where I can
> actually do something - eg not just getting the spash screen or background
> displayed.   So, either plug in the net or disable those utilities that
> want to talk and try things again.

My bootup is fine, its the BSD+wmaker running & opening nedit & a cmd prompts
that are slower than Windows 2000 ?? any suggestions as to why ??


Kind regards,

DK


		
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