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Date:      Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:42:27 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@freebsd.org>
To:        Sam Leffler <sam@errno.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Broadcom bge and 802.1Q vlan tags
Message-ID:  <20041013064227.GA1338@ip.net.ua>
In-Reply-To: <416C3C77.20406@errno.com>
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Hi Sam,

On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 01:20:07PM -0700, Sam Leffler wrote:
> >>This pessimizes normal traffic.
> >
> >m_tag_locate() doesn't look like a very expensive function.  And
> >with the "normal traffic", I don't expect to be more than one tag,
> >no?  Also, if if_nvlans > 0, this is already "pessimized".
> >
> >
> >>We should look for a solution in the=20
> >>driver(s) to avoid sending packets up with tags when no vlans are=20
> >>configured.
> >>
> >
> >I'd be opposed to such a change in behavior.  The VLAN consumer can
> >be not only vlan(4), it can equally be the ng_vlan(4) node, etc.
>=20
> I'm not sure what you are opposed to or why.  The issue I have is that=20
> m_tag_locate can be expensive if many packets have tags.  The check for=
=20
> the existence of vlans configured on the interface short-circuits this=20
> work.  That vlan-tagged packets may be generated when no vlans are=20
> configured seems wrong to me and breaks the assumption used to write the=
=20
> code.  Changing the driver to drop the frame if ifp->if_nvlans is zero=20
> seems straightforward and could probably be hidden in the existing macro.
>=20
Please take a moment and re-read what I've already said: vlan(4) is not
the only consumer of VLAN frames: ng_vlan(4) is another such one, and I
have a proprietary Netgraph node here that demultiplexes VLANs.  If you
start dropping VLAN frames in drivers when if_nvlans =3D=3D 0, this will be
a problem for me.  Is that clear now?


Cheers,
--=20
Ruslan Ermilov
ru@FreeBSD.org
FreeBSD committer

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