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Date:      Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:29:46 +1030
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Ebay Phishing
Message-ID:  <20050321035946.GH79501@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20050321025018.GA99877@xor.obsecurity.org>
References:  <20050321001225.GA30997@xor.obsecurity.org> <01a701c52dae$bed8dd10$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <20050321025018.GA99877@xor.obsecurity.org>

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On Sunday, 20 March 2005 at 18:50:18 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 07:41:00PM -0500, Matt Emmerton wrote:
>
>>> What do you have to edit?  If you're in Comcast dynamic space, why not
>>> just smarthost through their servers?
>>
>> Not referring to Comcast, but for Rogers which is also blacklisted by
>> a lot of people: their "smart" host likes to delay or randomly drop
>> outbound mail making it useless for reliable email delivery, and they
>> require you to send mail from a rogers.com address, which means you
>> can't use personal domains (like this one).
>>
>> Kris
>>
>> ----------- reply separator -------------
>>
>> Actually, what you say is not true for Rogers.  I've been sending mail
>> directly out of my Rogers-hosted machine for almost a year now, without
>> going through their "smart" hosts.  This was one of the reasons I switched
>> to Rogers from Sympatico -- Sympatico locked down port 25 which forced me to
>> use their crappy mail servers, and I was easily losing 50% of my mail.
>
> I don't understand what your point is...I didn't say rogers forced you
> to use their smarthost, only that lots of people (e.g. lots of people
> in europe and russia, in my experience) blacklist your emails when you
> don't.

Indeed.  I do, and it blocks an amazing amount of spam.

I do have the courtesy to say "please use your ISP's mail server" in
the error reply.

Greg
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See complete headers for address and phone numbers.

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