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Date:      Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:51:02 +0200
From:      Herve Quiroz <herve.quiroz@esil.univ-mrs.fr>
To:        freebsd-java@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Eclipse as part of the ports/java tree?
Message-ID:  <20050831155102.GA57775@arabica.esil.univ-mrs.fr>
In-Reply-To: <20050831072640.R83235@roble.com>
References:  <20050831120023.56A8916A44A@hub.freebsd.org> <20050831072640.R83235@roble.com>

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Roger,

On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 07:48:43AM -0700, Roger Marquis wrote:
> Vizion wrote:
> >I am now faced with the question is the ports tree as inflexible as some
> >people suggest or are some members of our meritocracy more inflexible than
> >the freebsd assets?
> 
> What you see as inflexibility the rest of us see as structure.  Sure
> it would be nice to insert a goto on occasion but, from a long-term
> perspective, the existing structure is better.

As I already told David in a private mail, he seems to lack the proper
understanding of the depth and complexity of the ports system.

And as I stated in the forecited message to David, I will now focus on
getting the 'java' category fully virtualized and begone from the
freebsd-eclipse effort unless specifically asked for help. I have some
other issues to tackle on my own.

As a side note, I am already starting to find that the freebsd-eclipse@
mailing list will have things even more difficult for the community to
get commiters involved in the process.

> Mark Linimon wrote:
> >In your most recent email I think you are finally getting a lot closer to
> >what I consider 'real' problem.  IMHO the interesting problems you want to
> >solve are the 'search' and 'browse' problems.
> 
> This is a good point, and a legitimate issue.  One solution might be
> to move or symlink portsearch from /usr/ports/Tools/scripts to
> /usr/local/bin.

I agree with this. portsearch is such a great tool that I wonder why it
has not yet found its way into ${PREFIX}/bin. We are flying away from
the Java and Eclipse discussion here but since Mark (and his maintainer
hat) is involved, I would like to suggest the idea to have such symlink
created by sysutils/port-maintenance-tools.

Herve



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