Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:41:59 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org> To: Thierry Thomas <thierry@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BEWARE upgrading Horde System Message-ID: <20060409203111.S1096@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <20060409201012.GF93845@graf.pompo.net> References: <20060407032220.W947@ganymede.hub.org> <1144391457.23833.6.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <44363371.9050200@fromley.net> <20060407141831.GA65673@pentarou.parodius.com> <20060408075305.GB58919@graf.pompo.net> <20060409050018.X1096@ganymede.hub.org> <20060409201012.GF93845@graf.pompo.net>
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This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1796827095-1144626119=:1096 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sun, 9 Apr 2006, Thierry Thomas wrote: > Le Dim 9 avr 06 =E0 10:03:35 +0200, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> > =E9crivait=A0: >> Actually, I think you've done a fine job ... my *only* beef is arbitrari= ly >> moving aside of the config files that I've already configured ... if I >> download a horde package, and untar that over top of my existing setup, = to >> upgrade, *it* doesn't do it ... and if I use CVS to update from the >> anoncvs server, it doesn't remove my config files ... the FreeBSD port >> shouldn't either ... > > There are two main possibilities: > > 1- the current one: you get an almost running webmail after the initial > installation; the installed config files are pre-configured with the > variables set in the ports Makefile and according to the installed > dependencies. When upgrading, your modified config files are saved, and > a new config is installed. Then you have to merge your setup within the > new files (there is no mergemaster: I use gvimdiff, and I'm sure that > any decent $EDITOR provides such a tool). You have to do that only for > your modified files (those saved as .previous). > > 2- the port does not pre-install config files, but only the .dist files > as samples. As you write, this is the method provided by the Horde > project when you install manually directly from the tarball. During the > initial configuration, the OP must > > cd config/ > for f in *.dist; do cp $f `basename $f .dist`; done > > for each Horde module. Since these files are not installed by the port, > they are not deinstalled, and they are still ready when you reinstall. > And your installation may run or not... To be secure, you have to > compare your configured files with the new .dist files, and merge the > new options into your files. You have to check all config files, even > the ones that you kept unmodified. > > I had choosen the first method, because I thought it was easier for the > OP this way, and I think that a port should do better than a manual > installation. You've missed the 3rd, and optimal, option: on initial install, install=20 the config files based on the .dist files, but *do not* overwrite an=20 existing config file (ie. after an upgrade) ... The problem is that in your option 1 above, on an existing system, you go= =20 from a "fully running system", and bring someone back to just an "almost=20 running webmail", and, in fact, it isn't even *almost* running, since now= =20 there is no more connections to the IMAP server, since you've totally=20 unconfigured that, you taken away all of my existing database=20 configurations, etc ... Please note that right now, if I upgrade based on the ports, the system=20 does not work ... a proper upgrade should involve installing all of the=20 new files, and then the admin logging in and going to Horde's Admin ->=20 Setup section, and properly going through each module ... the problem with= =20 your current install, none of the default values are right, there is no=20 database connection information, etc ... once I put back in my config=20 files from backup, I went to the Setup, it loaded what I had before as=20 defaults, and when I saved the config file, any new (or obsolete)=20 variables were then added/removed ... with your current config choices,=20 I'd have to go through page after page of options, same as i went through= =20 the very first time, and hope that I get all my settings right, and didn't= =20 miss something important ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: scrappy@hub.org Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 --0-1796827095-1144626119=:1096--
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