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Date:      Mon, 1 May 2006 12:14:47 -0700
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com>
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org, Coleman Kane <cokane@cokane.org>
Subject:   Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup style RFC
Message-ID:  <20060501191447.GD4315@odin.ac.hmc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <44565DD2.1020604@centtech.com>
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On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:13:22PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote:
> Brooks Davis wrote:
> >On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 10:23:32PM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote:
> >>Coleman Kane wrote:
> >>>On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:45:09AM -0500, Eric Anderson wrote:
> >>>>Eric Anderson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>Actually, some other things got changed somewhere in the history, tha=
t=20
> >>>>broke some things and assumptions I was making.  This patch has them=
=20
> >>>>fixed, and I've tested it with all the different options:
> >>>>
> >>>>http://www.googlebit.com/freebsd/patches/rc_fancy.patch-9
> >>>>
> >>>>It's missing the defaults/rc.conf diffs, but you should already know=
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> >>>>those.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Eric
> >>>>
> >>>I have a new patch (to 7-CURRENT) of the "fancy_rc" updates.
> >>>
> >>>This allows the use of:
> >>>rc_fancy=3D"YES"        --->  Turns on fancy reporting (w/o color)
> >>>rc_fancy_color=3D"YES"  --->  Turns on fancy reporting (w/ color), nee=
ds
> >>>                           rc_fancy=3D"YES"
> >>>rc_fancy_colour=3D"YES" --->  Same as above for you on the other side =
of
> >>>                           the pond.
> >>>rc_fancy_verbose=3D"YES" -->  Turn on more verbose activity messages.
> >>>                           This will cause what appear to be "false
> >>>			    positives", where an unused service is
> >>>			    "OK" instead of "SKIP".
> >>>
> >>>You can also customize the colors, the widths of the message
> >>>brackets (e.g. [   OK   ] vs. [ OK ]), the screen width, and
> >>>the contents of the message (OK versus GOOD versus BUENO).
> >>>
> >>>Also, we have the following message combinations:
> >>>OK   --->  Universal good message
> >>>SKIP,SKIPPED ---> Two methods for conveying the same idea?
> >>>ERROR,FAILED ---> Ditto above, for failure cases
> >>>
> >>>Should we just have 3 different messages, rather than 5 messages
> >>>in 3 categories?
> >>Yes, that's something that started with my first patch, and never got=
=20
> >>ironed out.  I think it should be:
> >>OK
> >>SKIPPED
> >>FAILED
> >>and possibly also:
> >>ERROR
> >>
> >>The difference between FAILED and ERROR would be that FAILED means the=
=20
> >>service did not start at all, and ERROR means it started but had some=
=20
> >>kind of error response.
> >
> >FAILED vs ERROR seems confusing.  I'd be inclined toward WARNING vs
> >FAILED or ERROR.
>=20
> True, however I still see a difference between FAILED and WARNING. For=20
> instance, as an example: a FAILED RAID is different than a RAID with a=20
> WARNING.

For that level of detail, the ability to provide additional output seems
like the appropriate solution.

-- Brooks

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