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Date:      Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:19:30 -0600
From:      "Jeff Norris" <jeff@norristechs.net>
To:        Jeff at NorrisTechs <jeff@norristechs.net>, Brian Candler <B.Candler@pobox.com>
Cc:        freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: VPN through NAT?
Message-ID:  <200608141219.AA2031742@mail.norristechs.net>

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Brian,

IPSEC NAT traversal uses UDP 4500?  Who implementation?  Cisco, Nortel, BSD?  I belive 4500 is Cisco's way of doing it, but not all IPSEC vpn clients are the same.  I use one that uses UDP port 10000 for nat traversal.

Cheers

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Brian Candler <B.Candler@pobox.com>
Date:  Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:30:17 +0100

>On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 06:28:33PM -0600, Jeff at NorrisTechs wrote:
>> I assume you have TCP port 1723 forwarding from the internet/dmz to the 
>> PPTP host?.  That should be enough for most PPTP based VPN clients.
>> 
>> It's can be difficult with IPSEC as you have to forward UDP 500, 
>> Protocol 50 and Protocol 51 to / from the VPN client from your NAT router.
>
>If the *clients* are behind NAT, when running IPSEC there should be nothing
>to do.
>
>IPSEC uses UDP 500 (outbound) to start the key exchange, detects NAT, and
>then switches to UDP 4500 for IPSEC NAT traversal. It also sends NAT
>keepalive packets every 20 seconds by default.
>
>So if you have a NAT-aware IPSEC client, it should work with any old NAT
>firewall without any config changes on that firewall, as long as it allows
>outbound connections. It was designed to work in hotels etc.
>
>Microsoft's L2TP over IPSEC works just fine for this (with Win2K you need to
>install a NAT traversal patch). I've no idea about PPTP though. I don't use
>it, as it's generally considered insecure compared with IPSEC.
>
>I believe some routers have a "PPTP passthrough" mode, which you could try
>turning on (or off) to see if it fixes the problem.
>
>Regards,
>
>Brian.
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