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Date:      Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:31:09 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Vivek Khera <vivek@khera.org>
Cc:        Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, stable@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: ffs snapshot lockup
Message-ID:  <20061006183108.GA16801@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <F314836D-7A2D-416A-8705-33F6E2EE6196@khera.org>
References:  <555B84D2-520F-44D6-84D6-CF9CE7EE47C7@khera.org> <20060922203654.GA65693@xor.obsecurity.org> <847DD3A5-D5DD-4D3E-B755-64B13D1DA506@khera.org> <20061003084315.GA89654@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <40CE3CF0-49D2-4335-A0B8-34B5251E9E19@khera.org> <20061005083027.GK89654@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <5178C89F-B645-4A82-A7C9-FC09D458FE30@khera.org> <20061006073950.GD26993@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <20061006175714.GA15880@xor.obsecurity.org> <F314836D-7A2D-416A-8705-33F6E2EE6196@khera.org>

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On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 02:11:05PM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote:
> 
> On Oct 6, 2006, at 1:57 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
> >>This is very strange. You 3 instances of getty where just reading the
> >>tty input, and all suspectible processes (like sshd) are waiting  
> >>on net
> >>events. No processes are blocked on the fs. One nfsd is serving  
> >>the request,
> >>and dump is active.
> >
> >To repeat something I said earlier: when creating a snapshot
> >(e.g. which dump -L does), the entire system may become unresponsive
> >untilk the snapshot completes, which can take many minutes.
> 
> I know snapshot takes a while -- we're used to that.

OK, thanks for confirming.

> I'm now convinced it was all stemming from some bug in bge driver (at  
> least for my specific chipset.)  Last night I put in an old spare  
> 3c905 NIC and turned off the motherboard bge via BIOS.

We'd be interested in diagnosing this problem separately; can you set
up a test machine with this card and give me access to it?

Kris

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