Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 2:35:20 -0800 From: Vizion <vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> To: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: portupgrade - skipping -held by user- meaning? Message-ID: <20070102103521.HBBD60.dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com@dukecmmtao03>
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Re: portupgrade - skipping -held by user- meaning?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Merritt [mailto:mcrogerm@stjohn.ac.th]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:22 AM
> To: Vizion
> Subject: Re: portupgrade - skipping -held by user- meaning?
>
>
> At 01:40 AM 1/2/2007 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of
> Sahil Tandon
> > > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 3:36 PM
> > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > Subject: Re: portupgrade - skipping -held by user- meaning?
> > >
> > >
> > > Vizion wrote:
> > >
> > > > What does it mean when the message
> > > > ---> skipping [portname] because it is held by user
> > > (specify -f to force)
> > >
> > > Does said port appear in the HOLD_PKGS array within
> > > pkgtools.conf? From
> > > that file:
> > >
> > > # HOLD_PKGS: array
> > > #
> > > # This is a list of ports you don't want
> portupgrade(1) to upgrade,
> > > # portversion(1) to suggest upgrading, or pkgdb(1) to fix.
> > > # You can use wildcards ("ports glob" and "pkgname glob").
> > > # -f/--force with each command will override the held status.
> > >
> > > > and when & why should -f be specify?
> > >
> > > When you want to force the upgrade of a package even though you've
> > > "held" it in pkgtools.conf.
> > >
> >Thanks from what you say I understand what happens but do
> not understand
> >the when and whys!!
> >My pkgtools.conf had entries in it but none made by me. In what
> >circumstances would one choose to "hold" and how come there
> are "holds"
> >without my knowing anything about it?
> >
> >This is always one of the difficulties with freebsd .. the
> what and how
> >questions get answered in the man pages but information that informs
> >judgement upon when the "how" and "what" to-do is best
> implemented are
> >missing!!
> >
> >Thanks for your help
>
> One way it can happen is from installing Perl modules that
> haven't been
> ported. I had to install three or four using CPAN, and they
> were entered
> into my HOLD_PKGS array automagically. The reason is (I
> suppose) because
> they aren't available in the ports and so portupgrade
> shouldn't generate
> errors when it can't fetch them. I would guess other
> installations that
> don't come from ports should be treated the same way -- when
> you want to
> upgrade them you need to do it the same way you did the original
> installation. I can't remember now any that I did manually; I
> try to only
> install stuff that's in the ports collection. I don't know
> how the entries
> got put in your HOLD_PKGS array, but you might do a make
> search and see if
> they have been added to the ports collection since you installed them.
>
>
Tghanks very much Roger.. understood.
I will write a short script to check for changes in pkgtools.conf and run it both before and after portupgrade is run. That way I will at least have a handle on what is going on.
Thanks again
David
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