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Date:      Tue, 6 Mar 2007 00:15:56 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Divacky Roman <xdivac02@stud.fit.vutbr.cz>
Cc:        kris@FreeBSD.org, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: investigation of Giant usage in kernel
Message-ID:  <20070306001251.N31701@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <20070304141136.GA4935@stud.fit.vutbr.cz>
References:  <20070304141136.GA4935@stud.fit.vutbr.cz>

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On Sun, 4 Mar 2007, Divacky Roman wrote:

> I looked at where Giant is held in the kernel and I found these interesting 
> things:
>
> 1) in fs/fifofs/fifo_vnops.c we lock Giant when calling sorecieve()/sosend() 
> this is a bandaid for fixing a race that doesnt have to exist anymore. ie. 
> it needs some testing and can be remvoed

Hmm.  I think that conclusion is a bit premature.  Per our conversation on 
IRC, the workaround was added back prior to a release due to our being unable 
to resolve a very difficult to debug race condition.  There is no evidence the 
race doesn't exist anymore: what is needed is testing to determine if it does 
or not.  The race condition occurred under high make -j load on SMP; FYI, make 
uses a fifo to implement a concurrency limiting token scheme in order to bound 
total simultaneous jobs despite many make instances running.

I've CC'd Kris since I know that he was able to reproduce the problem, so 
might be able to provide advice on how to do so.

Robert N M Watson
Computer Laboratory
University of Cambridge



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