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Date:      Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:32:18 -0700
From:      Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org>
To:        Steve Franks <stevefranks@ieee.org>
Cc:        Pieter de Goeje <pieter@degoeje.nl>, Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Automatic means for spinning down disks available?
Message-ID:  <20070411223218.GA44292@thought.org>
In-Reply-To: <539c60b90704111316w38017613sd50718d901d37831@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <46192C1B.4060706@u.washington.edu> <200704091751.27697.pieter@degoeje.nl> <539c60b90704111316w38017613sd50718d901d37831@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 01:16:26PM -0700, Steve Franks wrote:
> Say, I've been meaning to install ataidle for awhile, as my server handles
> approximately 3-5 requests for cvs per 24 hours, and I'm a pragmatic
> believer in the dangers of global warming, and I've never had a disk go bad
> on my old w2k systems, even though they spun up/down at least 20-50 times a
> day (on my desktop).
> 
> It's non-obivous, however, from the docs/man wether ataide makes persistent
> changes, or if you need to run it from cron, rc, etc.  Anyone know the
> 'proper' usage for ataidle?
> 
> I found this: http://andreas.syndrom23.de/drupal/files/ataidle which might
> be of general interest to folks along these same lines.  No idea if it's
> correct usage, however.


	Yuri Grebenkin's commments up-queue were well put.  My newest
	2800 AMD runs Ubuntu mostly for things-fun.  Tho it has evolution
	so I can just click-on a mail-embedded URL and have firefox come
	alive very easily.  No mouse swipe and messing with broswer in my
	default mutt.
	(&c.)  Not *quite* like running a server just to have vi or
	another editor handy, but close.  The Ubuntu runs my DVD/CD
	burner too.  ---But it's still what I consider a "toy."

	Every situation is unique, I think.  Are you admin'ing a slew of
	server?  are you running a few to several for a small business?
	Or just running two machines for your own fun and profit?  

	Some things to consider (besides powering -down or -off drives)
	are battery backup system.  Don't most UPS systems isolate your
	servers from the wall-socket?   At what level do hard drives have
	identical circuitry so that they can be software lower-voltaged?
	*Except for consumer __cost__*, why don't all boxes have builtin
	batteries like latop?  ...There are lots of things to consider.

	gary



> 
> Thanks,
> Steve
> 
> On 4/9/07, Pieter de Goeje <pieter@degoeje.nl> wrote:
> >
> >On Sunday 08 April 2007, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> >> Hello again all,
> >>       I was wondering if there was an automatic, and possibly timed
> >means to
> >> spin down disks available in either ports or the base system, by chance.
> >>       Just trying to cut down on energy use, and increase my disks'
> >lives :).
> >> TIA,
> >> -Garrett
> >Take a look at ataidle (sysutils/ataidle). Dunno if it helps with their
> >life
> >expectancy, but it certainly is quieter without the disks spinning :).
> >
> >HTH,
> >Pieter de Goeje
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Steve Franks, KE7BTE
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