Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:53 -0700 From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> To: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT. Message-ID: <20080529215053.GB62524@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <BMEDLGAENEKCJFGODFOCIEKLCFAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> References: <20080529065732.GA36261@thought.org> <BMEDLGAENEKCJFGODFOCIEKLCFAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
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FWIW, I'Ve switch back to mutt. i can't live without vi....
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:30:05AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> Don't bother, Gary.
>
> The world is moving towards CMS systems for hosting websites.
do we have such a mngnmt system tool in ports??
>
> The ultra-cheapo people use godaddy's site builder and
> put crap on a crappy-looking interface.
HMmmm. it's ben my experience that if you keep a page
*simple*, that serves best. now i'm not talking about
"Sam's New and Used Dildos and Computers" that's got animations
screaming at you. With 50 text and graphic ads/page plus
flashing text. i'm talking about something more together.
low-impact AND inventive. i've learned that if the
content sux, all the bells and whistles won't help.
>
> The better hosting companies each have their own site builders
> and look better, and are populated by acres of garden-variety corporate
> and the occassional personal sites.
>
> Very, very few people custom-write sites in HTML anymore.
> Most people use sitebuilding software (frontpage was the original,
> it's deprecated now in favor of other newer tools) either running
> on their PC or on the server.
>
> black text on blue is terribly hard to read for most people,
> read up on how the human eye works to understand why.
the why is simple, reduced contrast; that's why i have black text
on a white bg. Or so i thought until i saw how konquorer
(and opera) were munging my homepage.
firefox displays a graphic [link] with a stylized "J"; it is not
displayed by the other 2. that might be where to start looking.
>
> Put your time into loading a CMS system on your server then
> create your site in it. Yes the learning curve is steep in
> the beginning but it's not rote memorization of HTML tags. It
> is understanding how all the things work together.
you probably didn't start with the earlier markup. back then,
'93-4, there was <BR>,<P>, <B>, and <EM>. i wrote a 2.2K-line
program to handle "hi" -> ``hi'' and a couple other things.
the code has evolved, of course, but still works.
looks like what i need NOW is a debugger, :-) i have virtually
zero design skills .... except "keep it simple"
gary
>
> Ted
>
[[ save the electrons ]]
> >
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