Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:34:20 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> To: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Cc: Zbigniew Szalbot <zszalbot@gmail.com>, Manfred Usselmann <usselmann.m@icg-online.de>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? Message-ID: <20081118163419.GD28439@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20081118154446.H84809@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <7f8a05a80811171609h2f5742cfo2ae003415a99e45f@mail.gmail.com> <20081118121634.S84157@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081118123147.GA96005@ei.bzerk.org> <94136a2c0811180444n51cae14bg70654bc7b93445f8@mail.gmail.com> <20081118141648.M84450@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081118154009.2e3be393.usselmann.m@icg-online.de> <20081118154446.H84809@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
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On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 03:49:40PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >This is nonsense. The Windows interface itself is quite limited and not > >very powerful. > > as KDE and Gnome and others. > > > >when Win/95 came out being an OS/2 user at that time. From what I have > >read even the user interface of Mac OS X is much better that Windows > >although they have a much smaller market share. > > so why it have a much smaller market share? Because MS wrote restrictive contracts with companies trying to sell PCs saying that if they wanted to put MS on any of their machines, they had to put it on all of them. So, immediately every single PC that was sold ran some MS. Most people went with the flow. It was an easier business decision than trying to buck that current. This action should be considered totally illegal in the USA and probably many other countries. It is restraint of trade and forming a monopoly. Kodak lost a big case with similar ramifications many decades ago when they were refusing to sell film without including processing. But, the law cases against MS tended to be centered around including stuff like IE in the OS and making it difficult to switch to Netscape or other browsers. Forcing the OS on everyone seemed to fall off after the "settlement" (more like winding down) of those cases and now some PC sellers who still sell XP or Vista will sell you a machine with something else or even nothing. But, the damage is done. People/businesses have put a lot in to MS-Win, not only buying it and hiring large support forces to get it to work, but also in staff training and acquiring other products to function with it. There are plenty of people who are happy to just stick with MS and not think about it any more - just like businesses stuck with IBM and never listened to any other vendor back in their glory days. They will not be the ones who go to the trouble to read enough about FreeBSD to find this Email list and post questions about it. When someone goes looking for something OTHER than MS, then they are out of that MS fold and are searching for something better, not just for MS by another name. FreeBSD IS better. Some portion of those will look at it and decide to forget it. So what!? That is their problem. But, it is completely non-helpful to keep chanting the 'it ain't MS' mantra in the face of people who are looking to get away from MS. That is really 'DIS-ing' then to use a fad term that has fallen out of popularity. It is reasonable to caution people that FreeBSD and other UNIXen have a fairly steep learning curve. But, that is not an inpenetrable impediment. It is just part of the job of moving to something better. Anyone serious about finding a good alternative will take on that challenge willingly. It is not reasonable to continue to throw up unnecesary barriers to people moving to improve themselves. ////jerry > > >Anyhow, of course you > >can fully replace Windows with a unix(-like) system and a suitable > >desktop enviroment (e.g. KDE, Gnome, XFCE). It depends on your specific > >requirements and if applications exist which do what you need. But > >saying that GUI's under Unix are per se inferior is just spreading FUD. > >Leave that to MS. ;-) > > after being one of sponsors of "easy" linux distributions and desktop > environment (RedHat), microsoft now can say the truth that it's crap. > > > > >Just a small example, how limited Windows really is: Even today it is > > you don't have to tell me this. as all unix "desktop environments" are. > because this style of computing is limited by general. > > > In technical university nearest me there was (or is) a guy that when > teaching students unix he said: > > --- > Don't use windows. Not because it crashes, not because it's buggy and not > because it's damn slow. But because it learns bad habits, that are then > almost impossible to get rid of. > ---- > > For me the best sentence about it. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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