Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:34:25 -0700 From: Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors Message-ID: <20081213093425.GG39031@kokopelli.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20081212223549.F5340@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081211134622.15c81ecd@gom.home> <20081212002813.GD32300@kokopelli.hydra> <20081211170011.777236f8@gom.home> <20081212015814.GB32982@kokopelli.hydra> <20081211215036.526b2cad@gom.home> <20081212181148.GD36348@kokopelli.hydra> <20081212110745.7657ff59@gom.home> <20081212211111.GD37185@kokopelli.hydra> <4942D5C0.9060307@gmail.com> <20081212223549.F5340@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
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--L+ofChggJdETEG3Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:46:03PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >I mean seriously, has this helped anything at all? >=20 > no. all i want is to stop all stupid topics about: >=20 > - KDE/Gnome/other crap (or great things for somebody) >=20 > BECAUSE IT'S NOT PART OF FREEBSD. FreeBSD has nothing to this, except=20 > KDE/Gnome/whatever can be run on it Isn't discussion of getting KDE/GNOME/whatever working *with* FreeBSD a FreeBSD topic? >=20 > - support of flash in Opera/Firefox/Whatever >=20 > again BECAUSE WWW BROWSER ARE NOT PART OF FREEBSD. Isn't getting Flash working *with* FreeBSD (and browser of choice) a FreeBSD topic? >=20 > - support of new/hot (literally)/super/extra graphics cards from NVidia. >=20 > BECAUSE Xorg IS NOT PART OF FREEBSD. Isn't getting X.org working *with* FreeBSD (with a particular graphics adapter) a FreeBSD topic? >=20 > While IMHO full graphics support (graphics support, not GUI) should be=20 > part of kernel as driver, it isn't. Isn't that, too, a FreeBSD topic -- whether graphics support should be addressed as part of the FreeBSD base system's scope? >=20 > As NVidia card Xorg module does need some kernel wrapper (no idea why) -= =20 > then there is nothing wrong for interested people to write it as ADD=20 > ON/PORT. >=20 > - asking about bloat level, visual apperance comparision etc. between=20 > FreeBSD with KDE and Windoze. >=20 > because KDE ARE NOT PART OF FREEBSD, and FreeBSD on it's own doesn't have= =20 > (fortunately) any "desktop environment" so it can't be compared. Isn't "FreeBSD + $foo" a FreeBSD topic? >=20 > if someone like to compare KDE with windoze - OK but NOT THIS GROUP! KDE is not an operating system and -- despite jokes to the contrary -- installing MS Windows on a computer does indeed give one an operating system. It takes something like FreeBSD, in addition to KDE, to have a valid OS+GUI comparison with MS Windows. >=20 > SO - please just stop ALL NTG topics here. this group really lacks=20 > moderator. not someone that will remove posts he considers "lame" but all= =20 > that is off topic. >=20 > Off topic=3Dnot about FreeBSD OS. I'm amazed that you seem to think that making FreeBSD do what one wants it to do isn't a FreeBSD topic. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Paul Graham: "Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to build programs out of the wrong concepts." --L+ofChggJdETEG3Y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAklDgaEACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKURNgCg8qCDPb70TuCpJ3T7pWD8sVU4 Wj4AoJBE1Qe8ssG5agaUrZblmQ5TQnqQ =uOFJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --L+ofChggJdETEG3Y--
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