Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:59:59 -0500 From: Pete Carah <pete@port3.altadena.net> To: kris@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Big problems with 7.1 locking up :-( Message-ID: <20090119215959.GA1185@port3.altadena.net>
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I have done some (lots of) kernel debugging in the past. I have several points: 1. I shouldn't *have* to kernel debug for a normal usage of an official release. 2. One of the soekris boxes is 2800 MILES away, in a remote location, with noone present that is a skilled (or, indeed, any kind of) programmer. I usually thought I could trust a release, especially when I had been using the stable branch updated at about monthly intervals on 3 servers with no problems. (actually, I waited a while on 7.0 because .0 releases are traditionally quirky; in this case 7.0-rel worked fine and 7.1 has problems.) (and my servers are still running the *same* compilation of kernel/world with no problems; the hangs are unique to either the laptop (which only started doing this badly with a Jan 9 csup) and the Soekris boxes (which started hangs sometime in December; they clearly don't run X...) [ I've backed my house source to -stable of 12/1/08 and hope this will help; I don't have the time to fool around too much, and particularly to kernel debug something that shouldn't need it.] I can't even start X at all on this laptop now. At least I can boot it, but it isn't much use for work unless it can run X. 3. I can't afford the time to debug my tools (freebsd is a tool, not an experiment, for lots of people, including me...) I use this laptop at work in a place where I am *not* working on freebsd. (nor am I even allowed to at work...) -- Pete
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