Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:15:01 -0400 From: Jerry <gesbbb@yahoo.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Effing HAL Message-ID: <20091030121501.6f1f4b1d@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0910300904v5767894bkec0e7543e28aa951@mail.gmail.com> References: <370279.86430.qm@web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0910300906270.49648@wonkity.com> <eeef1a4c0910300858t2ff00009xbe8d82babfea3a8c@mail.gmail.com> <6201873e0910300904v5767894bkec0e7543e28aa951@mail.gmail.com>
next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:04:18 -0500 Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com> replied: >On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Freminlins <freminlins@gmail.com> >wrote: > >> I've read the responses and comments here, so don't think I'm >> ignoring anyone because I haven't responded directly. >> >> I rebuilt xorg-server without HAL. I killed hal stone dead and >> started up the new (i.e. old-skool) xorg. It all works fine. >> >> My mouse and keyboard work as specified in the xorg.conf file, >> rather than in the new-fangled xml way of doing things or adding >> setxkbmap to my xinitrc >> file. I am also 18MB of RAM better off. Specifically for Adam, who >> asks a rhetorical question about HAL, memory usage and top. The >> answer for me is 18MB too much. >> > >No my point was top is not accurate measure of HAL's memory usage. >HAL has shared library's just like many other applications. >> >> My advice to anyone who has problems with X and HAL - rebuild >> xorg-server without HAL (it doesn't take long), then start from >> that base. >> >> I have to say this HAL way of doing things is using a sledgehammer >> to crack a nut. Sure X can be a bit horrible to configure, but HAL >> itself is ugly, resource hungry and doesn't work 100%. It seems to >> be an example of supposedly making things easier, except when it >> doesn't work. > >This is only because of your misinterpretation of data and failure to >RTFM. Once you have to start reading a manual to create a configuration to get basic keyboard to work, things are getting seriously out of hand. A common user should not be required to have a working knowledge of XHTML and obscure directives in order to get a piece of equipment working. -- Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com |::::======= |::::======= |=========== |=========== | If you cannot in the long run tell everyone what you have been doing, your doing was worthless. Edwin Schrodinger
Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20091030121501.6f1f4b1d>