Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:01:17 -0800 From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> To: Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>, Al Plant <noc@hdk5.net> Subject: Re: "tao" suddenly died Message-ID: <20100310190117.GB65190@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <6201873e1003092004y5e1a7c5and97c8eb849619961@mail.gmail.com> References: <20100309191916.GA55827@thought.org> <4B96E3CA.7050906@hdk5.net> <20100310033452.GA2223@thought.org> <6201873e1003092004y5e1a7c5and97c8eb849619961@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 10:04:26PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
>
> > Aloha Al and thanks for responding. {god this has been a
> > long day... . ............}
> >
> > Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a
> > power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off
> > until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and
> > reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE
> > I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly
> > went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector.
> >
> > nutshell: things are almost back. it'll be only an hour
> > before everything is back.
> >
> > still, this is a warning to get back on the ball and start
> > looking for a new desktop.
> >
> > i would be much obliged for ideas on what kind of dell to buy
> > next. i say 'dell' because i would like to make life simple
> > and eventually have one kind of box. (i have three tower
> > computers: one is my DNS/mail/web server; one is my pfSense
> > firewall; one is my laptop. i COULD use the server as a
> > desktop, but that would be too much of a risk!
> >
> > so:: should i be looking for a dual or quad? ----i am biased
> > toward intel because i think the AMD requires more juice. [[my
> > only linux server --long dead-- seemed to suck 100w to 107w as
> > a minimum.]]
> >
> > suggestions?
> >
>
> I don't really think much of Dell consumer level products or support. While
> they aren't the worst out there, it still doesn't make it very compelling
> for me. Depending on your resources(money) you might consider something
> like this:
WEll, frankly, _cost_ is less of an issue considering all
the grief, &c. i think I've built [custom ordred] more
and better systems than the Dells and HPs.
>
> http://www.ixsystems.com/apollo
I'll look this up when I am using a GUI mailer.
>
> While more money than you'd probably spend with dell, here's a couple
> reasons to consider it further.
>
> 1. Out the Box compatibility
> 2. Great hardware support/warranty service
> 3. Vendor backing of your OS
> 4. Long term upgradability, this will serve you better than any emachine.
> 5. ixsystems is a large supporter of FreeBSD
>
> I believe the TCO of something like that is lower than most alternatives.
>
> One further thought is I don't see a lot sense in the requirement "must be a
> dell, cause the other ones I have are dell" given the amount of machines you
> run. To me, it would make more sense to standardize on something like cpu,
> so that you could run one as a build system/package repository. I know that
> settling on one vendor generally means you only need one source for warranty
> work, but with stickers on cases and online accounts this isn't such an
> issue anymore.
>
I would like to establish a history with one vendor, so
your feedback makes sense.
What I haven't decided on yet in whether to go with a
dual-core or quad-. mY current desktop is a 2.4GHz and
has always seemed slow when I've running more than five
tasks. Strange. The new dual-core server is like
greased lightening ... and extremely lightly loaded.
gary
>
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> Adam Vande More
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