Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 00:45:53 -0500 From: "Conrad J. Sabatier" <conrads@cox.net> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysutils/cfs Message-ID: <20110910004553.610dc809@cox.net> In-Reply-To: <4E6A476D.7090800@gmx.de> References: <4E651DCF.30605@FreeBSD.org> <201109052146.p85Lkous037023@fire.js.berklix.net> <CADLo838dMd5=TjRF5ffiaPH7o0%2BpeWgaqbQqEfDb3EP-n4ec8A@mail.gmail.com> <4E67935C.6080702@aldan.algebra.com> <CADLo838QkAjq2jPXy_c5MTYW09tZJMvWTNndo3Pnfa3=1c-5Og@mail.gmail.com> <4E68AC85.4060705@icritical.com> <4E68F34C.6090504@FreeBSD.org> <20110909040954.17733a4e@cox.net> <4E6A476D.7090800@gmx.de>
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 19:05:49 +0200 Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de> wrote: > Am 09.09.2011 11:09, schrieb Conrad J. Sabatier: > > On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 18:54:36 +0200 > > Matthias Andree <mandree@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> > >> No, you'd use a managed installation. Nobody stands there > >> pointing a gun at your head and forces you to uninstall a port > >> that got removed from the ports/ tree. If people could recognize > >> that, it might help get the derailed discussion back on the right > >> track. > > > > You fail to take into account the case where a port may need to be > > reinstalled. An extraordinary effort is required if the port no > > longer exists in the ports tree. > > If a "port may need to be reinstalled" then you failed organize proper > backups. Not a valid point here. Not necessarily. A simple bump in library versioning could require ports to be rebuilt. > > Frankly, I'm growing increasingly concerned that this push to > > eliminate ports is getting out of control. I don't much care for > > the notion that, having invested the time in installing, > > configuring and tuning a certain set of software packages, suddenly > > the rug could be pulled out from under me, so to speak, in essence > > *forcing* me to abandon using certain packages or else deal with > > maintaining them (in the ports maintainer sense) on my own. > > The rug is pulled by the upstream maintainers abandoning their > software, not by FreeBSD no longer packaging it years after the fact. While I understand the reasoning behind this, I still feel that as long as a package continues to build and run without any known issues, then why be in a rush to drop it? The argument that "the ports collection is not a museum" is valid to some degree, but if a package is still usable (and useful), then aren't we shooting ourselves in the foot by dropping it? -- Conrad J. Sabatier conrads@cox.net
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