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Date:      Mon, 7 Jul 2014 21:49:15 +0100
From:      Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Should 9.3 carry a warning about NEW_XORG
Message-ID:  <20140707204912.GA11191@anubis.morrow.me.uk>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1407071357340.87353@wonkity.com>
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Quoth Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>:
> On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, Ian Smith wrote:
> 
> > Seeing that a perhaps not miniscule proportion of 9.x X users will need
> > to do some manual configuration on upgrading to 9.3, a relevant WARNING
> > in http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.3R/relnotes.html should be helpful.
> 
> I can agree with the idea of a note, just have no clear idea what it 
> should say.  If people are shown how to stick with the old xorg, they 
> will be marooned and ports that require the newer version will not work. 
> People that upgrade may find their hardware no longer supported.  That's 
> sort of the price of progress with technology.

(No, it's the price of depending on a CADT upstream. It's a shame
FreeBSD doesn't have the manpower to maintain a fork, since that would
really be the only reliable option at this point.)

The note should say exactly what you just said: there are no good
options. Many configurations will either break now or break soon, unless
you're willing to fall back to VESA-only (is that likely to remain a
viable option in all cases?). While this is a deplorable situation,
there is nothing the FreeBSD project can do about it.

Ben




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