Date: Sun, 10 May 2015 05:40:19 +0000 From: Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org> To: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> Cc: Jordan Hubbard <jordan.hubbard@gmail.com>, Tim Kientzle <tim@kientzle.com>, freebsd-arm <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: RPi2 support... Message-ID: <20150510054019.GW94075@hub.FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <CAJ-VmonnCMcKB0zEL=rOvhMnE4f24agV8EsZ6LHPtkhXhoQzNg@mail.gmail.com> References: <0FD2F2B4EF6E490B9DB6CEF1119ECB70@ad.peach.ne.jp> <2DD4D1CE-E05B-44D7-B396-92BB4CD1D98D@kientzle.com> <B018348D-F24D-4E3C-8B8A-CE55890BC5A4@mail.turbofuzz.com> <CAJ-VmonnCMcKB0zEL=rOvhMnE4f24agV8EsZ6LHPtkhXhoQzNg@mail.gmail.com>
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--8H0nMKPd/Rx1sNWz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 10:24:34PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: > gjb didn't like how development wasn't freebsd-releng-friendly (but > really, which upstream vendor project is in all honesty) so he's > rolled a replacement that's just landed in head. Time will tell which > will work out better. >=20 My recent commit is not about "being better than Crochet", it is about providing an in-tree build method (for RE purposes) that can be reproduced. For people that do not need to do pristine-environment, reproducible builds, I encourage the use of Crochet. > Me, I'm completely ignoring /all of that/ because I'm fed up with > building things as root and having to do loopback mounts to build > things and loopback devices to create filesystems. My mips stuff does > everything 100% as a user, and it's actually really damned pleasant. > I'd love to see FreeBSD move to that model but I have a feeling it'll > be fighting against lazy developers who are used to having root > everywhere. >=20 I personally fail to see the reasoning behind this, but I'm looking at things from an entirely different perspective, I suppose. While it's great that your tools provide a mechanism to produce a build as non-root, FreeBSD releases are built as the root user. Glen --8H0nMKPd/Rx1sNWz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVTu9DAAoJEAMUWKVHj+KTeOcP/2378OB1Zb00lb9E3w/PFjoe NeBhIs1iCVwX4BLVMIAVCRoqyFQS1gfEwi1I2pH6JkFg0YArNWfd4WIoiNCtgPZV Psjvz0CauYO9vy6QiBwOgn1Gpxy7PA0Hg84SzrtfEXG1r85S8reJ5G4g6QS9nJ9h Hk+dDcb6UgMcbnzjxy7nB6ryjjcxg3CMxjGcKPrsI9COKYnrrdob5Rqi0Q2okNwc jkG5oKpvUnVUSJLIONCMFVsqTeAZ9By8u0PgO6uPBzSMVVT7gKJvQjEQhBbEtV6M wiO2LpZCxpjPbZllnDVavoWgw4BFNPdQcBeBIFSICVvb8KWtr7MaGTVaPaXCVpO1 F8sRlIQcT+gkCVrknDbwTRC4/8P7pQwZLaW/dte2ULjQrToqQX1pQzzaUGzd2dYU SVVQhKNU1OUBOC8STh43Mt2KLYx2kPpOnfRteI4vGwT+BXgCvYdGkhnDQTQsAwqG zdERSHD2ahY+XBBuyo7zu/hXvuOJONyBSYXr4ZzkXl9sYG2ZrCcD6ye2m4PWW1ip 59uY8kaTbn6Z3f43cQaNFho7t5Hi241iMSMy/yqaog5S+VwH8AZ12dkrTmFj30Om sbJe/OdDewOWG1EGIahcExt25NuILXtwYRGF7z5BMLnla6t03/hA8aO96orstKvT ID3wvqpjFljzDU2pdxun =Lv/g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8H0nMKPd/Rx1sNWz--
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