Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 15:47:53 -0400 From: Rob Clark <rclark@redhat.com> To: Igor Gnatenko <ignatenkobrain@fedoraproject.org> Cc: Emil Velikov <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com>, riastradh@netbsd.org, Stefan Dirsch <sndirsch@suse.de>, Andreas Radke <andyrtr@archlinux.org>, Jan de Groot <jgc@archlinux.org>, Jonathan Gray <jsg@jsg.id.au>, =?utf-8?B?RnJhbsOnb2lz?= Tigeot <ftigeot@wolfpond.org>, Matthew Green <mrg@netbsd.org>, =?utf-8?Q?Jean-S=C3=A9bastien_P=C3=A9dron?= <jean-sebastien.pedron@dumbbell.fr>, mesa@packages.debian.org, x11@freebsd.org, mesa-owner <mesa-owner@fedoraproject.org>, ajax@redhat.com Subject: Re: [RFC] Embed the mesa version in the library/binary name Message-ID: <20150814194753.GC19762@mail.corp.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <CAFMg4WB5XH5_pOaBQeTAkmBKqO_aPMcpmc1rC9758N%2BXQ6xwqg@mail.gmail.com> References: <CACvgo50jzwFtE-md_nsZSmZJNqgqBsoA72o74x9LfhffYdqm1g@mail.gmail.com> <CAFMg4WB5XH5_pOaBQeTAkmBKqO_aPMcpmc1rC9758N%2BXQ6xwqg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Aug 14 2015 or thereabouts, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > On Aug 14, 2015 6:21 PM, "Emil Velikov" <emil.l.velikov@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello all, > Hi, > > > > My name is Emil and I'm the person breaking^w fixing mesa's build > > amongst others. > Yes, we know :D > > > > A while back I had this idea of renaming the libraries provided by > > mesa to include the actual version number. Prior to doing anything > > "crazy" I've decided to seek your feedback. > > > > > > * What > > The idea is to rename (ideally) all of the versioned libraries. > > Unversioned ones such as radeonsi_dri.so will remain as is. > > > > Note: the soname and symlinks will stay to avoid breaking compatibility. > > > > > > * How > > While I haven't fully decided on the exact approach I'm thinking of > > something like: > > libGL.so.1.0.0 -> libGL.so.11.0 or libGL.so.110.1 or libGL.so.11.01 > I'd like to see 11.0 for 11.0, 11.1 for 11.1 and etc. Adam probably knows better, but I thought libGL.so/.1/.1.2.0 as part of the linux/unix GL ABI? So not really sure that it is something we can actually change. That said, with the libOpenGL stuff we could probably do something better. BR, -R > > > > Other suggestions and ideas are welcome but please keep the version to X.Y > > > > > > * Why > > A number of reasons: > > - The binary driver by Nvidia has been using this approach for years. > > - It provides quick and easy feedback in traces > > - In most cases, one can easily establish if the distro provided > > library is overwritten. > > - Allows multiple binaries to coexist, making the dynamic switching > > between libGL.so.110.1, libGL.so.11.2.0 (mesa), libGL.so.352.14 > > (nvidia) libGL.so.XX.Y (another vendor) a little bit easier. > > - OpenBSD, Solaris(?) use sunos 4 style versioning -> .so.major.minor > > > > > > How does this sound, do you foresee any pros/cons with the above > > proposal ? Any and all input is greatly appreciated, but please try to > > keep your replies technical and constructive. > I'm fully agree with proposal, but one question. How much libs/programs > links against libGL or other libs? I mean how much programs we will rebuild > every release? > > > > If there are any concerns wrt the required updates (of the > > build/packaging recipes) I'm willing to help out. > > > > > > As I'm not sure how many of you follow mesa-dev, would you be OK if I > > CC you in distro related~ish topics. > > Some (not so crazy) examples: > > - libEGL.so has additional dependency (via libdl) of X > > - OpenCL only works with render node devices, kernel vY or later is > required > > - Mesa's new library libfoo.so should be shipped with libbar.so > I would be happy to be CCed. > > > > > > Thanks > > Emil
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