Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 17:12:15 +0200 From: "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> To: Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> Cc: "Lundberg, Johannes" <johannes@brilliantservice.co.jp>, Adam McDougall <mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu>, David Chisnall <theraven@freebsd.org>, "current@freebsd.org" <current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Intel Haswell support - Any updates? Message-ID: <20150917171215.7e8541bf.ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <20150917134809.GA3025@c720-r276659> References: <55FA7324.5010603@icloud.com> <CAASDrV=D6viCDJx9yT5CiNf1ukiz_Rp1k5wqpk92xSyiNQTEqg@mail.gmail.com> <CAPS9%2BSuYq6JqzX=aHNgD=y5SUnBQ4x_Amk-6B0bvKc6kRQ5YVA@mail.gmail.com> <CAASDrVnxZ8MUmgCO-cFRVatUMQS1LHU-4XASSJckzp_FJbvd2w@mail.gmail.com> <09A515F2-44BA-4DF0-9792-D4C56EEB9D7C@FreeBSD.org> <CAASDrVnuVfOsJvNuOsAQaHYRQqFenH%2B3=wNDBO5GR5j2KgxsxQ@mail.gmail.com> <114F22EF-61E3-4D75-84FB-9D6E3FBCB8F3@FreeBSD.org> <20150917131333.GN1247@egr.msu.edu> <CAASDrVnNuh%2BjT-%2BZFTriPELfOB78accBqGmrVUE-MDgDPZoicA@mail.gmail.com> <20150917134809.GA3025@c720-r276659>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] Am Thu, 17 Sep 2015 15:48:09 +0200 Matthias Apitz <guru@unixarea.de> schrieb: > El día Thursday, September 17, 2015 a las 10:41:43PM +0900, Lundberg, Johannes escribió: > > > Same here. I would personally definitely buy new hardware from Intel if > > FreeBSD worked on it (not vesa...) > > ... > > What dow you have against vesa? I run CURRENT on some Acer C720 > Chromebooks with Haswell chipset in Vesa mode. And you will not note it. > I have never ever had such a fast desktop (KDE4) before. I can live fine > with Vesa until Haswell suport is there. > > matthias At what resolution? I have some Lenovo Thinkpad E540, L540. Display resolution: 1980x1080 dots. CPU: Intel i5-4200M, Haswell with HD4600 iGPU. The laptops do not work with VESA driver - despite some claims of others, I never managed it to get the driver working on exactly those system types! The alternative framebuffer device is simply horror! I was used to use VESA driver a while ago when FreeBSD fell back in AMD's focus of support with some AMD HD47XX and HD48XX frambuffers. Compared to the cheapest nVidia GPU board we plugged in then and the nVidia BLOB, VESA was incredibly slow, clumsy and not very stable. That hasn't changed for now. GPUs got faster, so VESA might not suffer from non 2D/3D acceleration, but I never managed it to bring VESA to live for resolutions like 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 and even higher. That is - for a desktop/workstation system - in my opinion "a must". For a notebook/laptop its 1980x1080. Everything else is a toy and for that one can also use crap Windooze OS. Having now Ubuntu and Intel driver for the laptops, there is no need for slow workarounds like VESA. [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJV+thPAAoJEOgBcD7A/5N8RsYH/jphjGigjkx79FmZVAnJZcmU 5hTtI6e1LfREsaAI5QBR7FM0XfYeOMyGfIdHuoj7krRwQ6+gYrHVDfAKu80h7Jvy MSmvFQsS9PpvMcGGPI4z8z2vZjRWJfyw8W3OkP7NwczP9K770ELK+uam53nWh7l7 XT20OhpaB21XJd6DiSbcpUmMcFJ1srbNDLohxMJHksrbr/qVrYL5H2IeuQT/L26I kJlPPCKILmGOGDNIAwVmWdq1KMtjLsc7j5VUXcRPcXOk6Md4M+3NIZd37aS+LvM7 QT8TiAU5xlVlSXI06/+V7Y4YifoafOKqA20q8W2xfDaXFGMM+iw8ni6dww4PY34= =JIe+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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